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Drottie · 01-06-2014, 09:08 AM

So the parts are piling up in the garage and I'm getting anxious start the install. The goal was 650rwhp but keep reliability and durability, that's not asking too much right? Here's what I'm going with:

Whipple 2.9 hopefully on a modest 9 or 10lb boost (4" or 3.875" pulley)
CBI ESAD cam
ID850 injectors
CTSv dual pump setup
SLP LT 1.34" headers
3" catless exhaust,X-pipe
Katech C5r t-chain w/ LS2 style tensioner
CAI w/Whipple tube
ZR1 3 bar MAP
Tune from DSX

Both my tuner and Chad from CBI said 650 shouldn't be an issue. Can't wait to get stupid!

acowherd · 01-06-2014, 09:24 AM

With that list of parts and DSX behind thr keyboard...650 shouldn't be a problem at all.

2012LS3VERT · 01-06-2014, 09:24 AM

I can't wait to get my car sorted out so I can join the blower club too! Dang blower just sitting on the shop floor. 650 rwhp is a little high for 1-3/4 headers, they are probably going to cost you a little bit at the peak, just making it a little more difficult, but not impossible.

acowherd · 01-06-2014, 09:26 AM

While your at it have DSX put in his E85 flex fuel kit.

BullF-16 · 01-06-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by acowherd

With that list of parts and DSX behind thr keyboard...650 shouldn't be a problem at all.

TRC-SS · 01-06-2014, 01:55 PM

Yea you will be over that 650 mark with the whipple. Like others said a 1 7/8th or 2" header would of been better with forced induction but your goal will be met regardless.

My guess 685rwhp

Drottie · 01-06-2014, 02:38 PM

After the install and tune, a clutch and maybe axles will probably be the next thing addressed. But after that the E85 or any Alky meth kit.

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Originally Posted by acowherd

While your at it have DSX put in his E85 flex fuel kit.

Drottie · 01-06-2014, 02:49 PM

If the headers cause any problems, they could always be swapped for larger, but from some of the reading I did when I was still N/A sometimes bigger wasn't always better. Not sure if this will be the same with Whipple, if it is I can work on that. With everything else in the exhaust being pretty much wide open, I'm hoping an 1/8 or 1/4" on the headers don't hurt me to bad.

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Originally Posted by 2012LS3VERT

I can't wait to get my car sorted out so I can join the blower club too! Dang blower just sitting on the shop floor. 650 rwhp is a little high for 1-3/4 headers, they are probably going to cost you a little bit at the peak, just making it a little more difficult, but not impossible.

2012LS3VERT · 01-06-2014, 03:42 PM

I'm sure they won't choke it off so much that you'll miss your goal, but at that power level there will probably be a pretty good bit of power left on the table, especially compared to running a 2" header with the same mods. I'd wager on 20-30 HP at peak.

CamaroI · 01-06-2014, 05:54 PM

Im at 610 with a Whipple on my Automatic with similar list above if that gives you an idea. Yours will be much more with standard

BLACK10 · 01-06-2014, 06:58 PM

We have made 750+rwhp on 1.750" headers. It just gives up a little tq on the low end. You'll be fine!

STSL · 01-06-2014, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012LS3VERT

I'm sure they won't choke it off so much that you'll miss your goal, but at that power level there will probably be a pretty good bit of power left on the table, especially compared to running a 2" header with the same mods. I'd wager on 20-30 HP at peak.

Id take that bet lol..Nascar runs 1 5/8 headers and make over 950hp.Id say at 650rwhp you MAY pick up an extra 10 with the 2 inch

the_fast_one · 01-06-2014, 07:42 PM

Ive been talking to chad about doing all my bushings and possibly either 150 shot of juice or just ponying up and getting an ECS kit with Meth. He does awesome work and DSX is amazing with tuning

Drottie · 01-06-2014, 09:14 PM

Without hesitation, I'd recommend Chad at CBI for any LSx work. He really is one of the good guys, no drama, no ego, and a lot of knowledge. Dave is a wizard with tuning, very good team.

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Originally Posted by the_fast_one

Ive been talking to chad about doing all my bushings and possibly either 150 shot of juice or just ponying up and getting an ECS kit with Meth. He does awesome work and DSX is amazing with tuning

01-06-2014, 09:08 AM	#1
Drottie Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Convertible in VR Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Edwardsville, IL Posts: 240	650rwhp.... That's the goal So the parts are piling up in the garage and I'm getting anxious start the install. The goal was 650rwhp but keep reliability and durability, that's not asking too much right? Here's what I'm going with: Whipple 2.9 hopefully on a modest 9 or 10lb boost (4" or 3.875" pulley) CBI ESAD cam ID850 injectors CTSv dual pump setup SLP LT 1.34" headers 3" catless exhaust,X-pipe Katech C5r t-chain w/ LS2 style tensioner CAI w/Whipple tube ZR1 3 bar MAP Tune from DSX Both my tuner and Chad from CBI said 650 shouldn't be an issue. Can't wait to get stupid! __________________ SICC, Southern Illinois Camaro Club On Facebook 2011 SS/RS LS3/M6 convertible Victory Red, Black top w/Nightshades 1LE graphics Whipple 2.9L with 3.875" pulley CBI ESAD cam with Tooley springs ADM fuel with ID850 injectors DSX Tune MGW shifter 20" TSW Nurbering 275/315 Nitto NT05 Carlyle Performance 15" kit with Pfadt solid subframe inserts C.A.I. cold air intake SLP LT headers, 3" exhaust, no cats, x-pipe ZL1 dual mode mufflers Lighting controlled by NightOwl 2010 SS/RS LS3 - SOLD- #15,852 build date 06/05/2009 CGM w/flat black stripes Last edited by Drottie; 01-06-2014 at 09:27 PM. Reason: Forgot some stuff

01-06-2014, 09:24 AM	#2
acowherd Drives: 2010 2ss/RS 4l80. 2009 2500 HD Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mid MO Posts: 1,826	With that list of parts and DSX behind thr keyboard...650 shouldn't be a problem at all. __________________ Follow along as we build and race this 2010 Camaro! https://www.facebook.com/pages/FNSS-...75028626000379 FNSS Racing!

01-06-2014, 09:26 AM	#4
acowherd Drives: 2010 2ss/RS 4l80. 2009 2500 HD Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mid MO Posts: 1,826	While your at it have DSX put in his E85 flex fuel kit. __________________ Follow along as we build and race this 2010 Camaro! https://www.facebook.com/pages/FNSS-...75028626000379 FNSS Racing!

01-06-2014, 01:55 PM	#6
TRC-SS 700RWHP-650TQ Drives: 2011 Forged LS3 Supercharged/Cammed Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Shrewsbury Massachusetts Posts: 5,269 View My Garage	Yea you will be over that 650 mark with the whipple. Like others said a 1 7/8th or 2" header would of been better with forced induction but your goal will be met regardless. My guess 685rwhp __________________ View Build HERE>>>>>MY 2011 2SS/RS JOURNAL

01-06-2014, 07:42 PM	#13
the_fast_one Drives: 2017 red hot zl1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: IL Posts: 857	Ive been talking to chad about doing all my bushings and possibly either 150 shot of juice or just ponying up and getting an ECS kit with Meth. He does awesome work and DSX is amazing with tuning __________________ 2017 ZL1 built by GPI. Way to many mods to list 855rwhp/720rwtq

01-06-2014, 09:24 AM	#3
2012LS3VERT Drives: 2012 2SSRS Vert, Black w/M6 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,265	I can't wait to get my car sorted out so I can join the blower club too! Dang blower just sitting on the shop floor. 650 rwhp is a little high for 1-3/4 headers, they are probably going to cost you a little bit at the peak, just making it a little more difficult, but not impossible.

01-06-2014, 03:42 PM	#9
2012LS3VERT Drives: 2012 2SSRS Vert, Black w/M6 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,265	I'm sure they won't choke it off so much that you'll miss your goal, but at that power level there will probably be a pretty good bit of power left on the table, especially compared to running a 2" header with the same mods. I'd wager on 20-30 HP at peak.

01-06-2014, 05:54 PM	#10
CamaroI Drives: 2010 IOM Camaro Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: DFW Posts: 3,112	Im at 610 with a Whipple on my Automatic with similar list above if that gives you an idea. Yours will be much more with standard

01-06-2014, 06:58 PM	#11
BLACK10 Drives: 2010 CAMARO. 10.04@133mph, 1.4 60' Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 4,585	We have made 750+rwhp on 1.750" headers. It just gives up a little tq on the low end. You'll be fine!