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2013 ZL1 #7860 · 10-17-2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaro21

Yes, I noticed the ride of the ZL1 was more like a bagged and lowered Honda Civic with NO SUSPENSION. My butt feeling was right on, I had ordered the struts long before I noticed the wetness on the struts. It was almost not drivable. It felt like riding in a car with square wheels !!! It's a shame that GM cannot buy product that will last more that this and and on top of that charge almost $1000 for 2 struts is a bit extreme !!

Welcome to Mag Ride. It isn't free. $500 a strut isn't that bad IMO...

Camaro21 · 10-17-2014, 07:14 PM

I work in the auto industry and I know all about "wear items" and how long they should last. They SHOULDN'T HAVE BLOWN in 44,000 miles. They might get weak, a little more bouncy maybe, but not both seals completely blown. I have been in the auto industry since 1993 so I have a little experience !!

Z/28Dan · 10-17-2014, 08:53 PM

44,000 is too soon. I completely agree.

eightup · 10-17-2014, 09:40 PM

44k geeeez. i'm personally getting tired of gm. Been driving their stuff for a long time too.

Vroom · 10-18-2014, 12:07 AM

Mine were the ones that went out at 60k. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375263

They are shock absorbers not struts...if you're wondering what the difference is, the strut is covered under warranty, factory and extended and a shock absorber isn't, beside that I have no idea what the difference is. The front is labeled a strut in the service manual, however, I was told that the MRC cartridge may be classed as an absorber and therefore not covered. I was also told that its normal for them to wear out and it happens on other cars with the MRC just as often like the corvette, caddy and HHR, so its not just a ZL1 thing.
I think its just one of those things nobody budgeted for, so now I've added $2000 to my budget to replace front and back absorbers every 50-60k. I'd recommend to others to do the same especially if you have bad roads or track they car.

Camaro21 · 10-18-2014, 12:10 AM

It is a strut and that's how it is listed in the GM Parts manual and mine didn't wear out, the seals blew. Either way, I have NEVER owned a vehicle that had this issue at 44,000 miles.

wickedpsi · 10-18-2014, 12:49 AM

this is a strut. a shock does not have a spring perch.

Vroom · 10-18-2014, 12:58 AM

Trust me, its a shock absorber. I'm aware the online parts stores call it a strut, but the service manual and official gm parts manual call it a shock absorber. The service manual calls the front a strut, and while I haven't had to go toe to toe over the warranty for it yet, my service guy said they may deny it if it also leaks because the GMPP warranty may class the cartridge as a shock absorber. Hopefully it hold out and doesn't become an issue.

CRTZL1 · 10-18-2014, 04:10 AM

Maybe it's a case of circumstance. Just cause yours went out at 44k doesn't mean that all z's will. Maybe it has to do with your driving style /manners, or maybe you just got unlucky.
Either way it's a wear and tear part , No matter if your car is a ZL1 or a 500,000 dollar Ferrari.... suspension is always going to be wear and tear and need replacement with mileage...

Definitely wouldn't call it an 'issue'
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zogster · 10-18-2014, 10:41 AM

Is the cost $1k because it has the MRC fluid in it, or is this not the part that stores that fluid?

mbd314 · 10-18-2014, 10:46 AM

Price doesn't include shipping, but an online retailer has that part number at $742 for two.

I agree with others, although 44k seems premature, it all depends on driving style, roads etc. I've also seen people on here balk about tire prices, brake prices etc. One should know that a car with the sportiness and technology of the ZL1, things are going to be more expensive when it's time to replace them.

Good luck on the labor end of things and happy driving!

Z/28Dan · 10-18-2014, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mbd314

One should know that a car with the sportiness and technology of the ZL1, things are going to be more expensive when it's time to replace them.

Wow, never heard that one before...Thanks.

Vroom · 10-18-2014, 04:34 PM

Agreed. every time I took my GTO in to get fix, it was a min of $1000 to fix. With the ZL1, $2000. You have to pay to play.
The struts needing to be replaced isn't that bad, just unexpected...I've had more supercharger replacements. The drive for the supercharger is $2000. Looking forward to eating that cost when the warranty is out.

2013 ZL1 #7860 · 10-18-2014, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro21

I work in the auto industry and I know all about "wear items" and how long they should last. They SHOULDN'T HAVE BLOWN in 44,000 miles. They might get weak, a little more bouncy maybe, but not both seals completely blown. I have been in the auto industry since 1993 so I have a little experience !!

With mag ride? I have always heard that mag ride was expensive to fix and I wish the ZL1 didn't have it for that reason. Pay to play and 425$ a strut/shock/whatever every 40k is not so bad... IMO a ZL1 shouldn't have 44k miles yet. I have never owned a car that did not have some repair required at 40k

10-17-2014, 08:53 PM	#17
Z/28Dan Drives: 2013 HWSE Indy Festial #26 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 2,670 View My Garage	44,000 is too soon. I completely agree. __________________ There are only so many days in your lifetime. So get out and drive your Camaro... Dan

10-18-2014, 12:07 AM	#19
Vroom Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 325	Mine were the ones that went out at 60k. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375263 They are shock absorbers not struts...if you're wondering what the difference is, the strut is covered under warranty, factory and extended and a shock absorber isn't, beside that I have no idea what the difference is. The front is labeled a strut in the service manual, however, I was told that the MRC cartridge may be classed as an absorber and therefore not covered. I was also told that its normal for them to wear out and it happens on other cars with the MRC just as often like the corvette, caddy and HHR, so its not just a ZL1 thing. I think its just one of those things nobody budgeted for, so now I've added $2000 to my budget to replace front and back absorbers every 50-60k. I'd recommend to others to do the same especially if you have bad roads or track they car. __________________ 2013 Victory Red ZL1 - 210K+ miles. Mods: Who needs mods...its a freaking ZL1 - Last car: 2006 GTO

10-18-2014, 12:58 AM	#22
Vroom Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 325	Trust me, its a shock absorber. I'm aware the online parts stores call it a strut, but the service manual and official gm parts manual call it a shock absorber. The service manual calls the front a strut, and while I haven't had to go toe to toe over the warranty for it yet, my service guy said they may deny it if it also leaks because the GMPP warranty may class the cartridge as a shock absorber. Hopefully it hold out and doesn't become an issue. __________________ 2013 Victory Red ZL1 - 210K+ miles. Mods: Who needs mods...its a freaking ZL1 - Last car: 2006 GTO

10-18-2014, 04:34 PM	#27
Vroom Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 325	Agreed. every time I took my GTO in to get fix, it was a min of $1000 to fix. With the ZL1, $2000. You have to pay to play. The struts needing to be replaced isn't that bad, just unexpected...I've had more supercharger replacements. The drive for the supercharger is $2000. Looking forward to eating that cost when the warranty is out. __________________ 2013 Victory Red ZL1 - 210K+ miles. Mods: Who needs mods...its a freaking ZL1 - Last car: 2006 GTO

10-17-2014, 07:14 PM	#16
Camaro21 Drives: SOLD - 2013 M6 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 5,041 View My Garage	I work in the auto industry and I know all about "wear items" and how long they should last. They SHOULDN'T HAVE BLOWN in 44,000 miles. They might get weak, a little more bouncy maybe, but not both seals completely blown. I have been in the auto industry since 1993 so I have a little experience !!

10-17-2014, 09:40 PM	#18
eightup Drives: 2013 zl1 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: ofallon il Posts: 126	44k geeeez. i'm personally getting tired of gm. Been driving their stuff for a long time too.

10-18-2014, 12:10 AM	#20
Camaro21 Drives: SOLD - 2013 M6 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 5,041 View My Garage	It is a strut and that's how it is listed in the GM Parts manual and mine didn't wear out, the seals blew. Either way, I have NEVER owned a vehicle that had this issue at 44,000 miles.

10-18-2014, 12:49 AM	#21
wickedpsi Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 237	this is a strut. a shock does not have a spring perch.

10-18-2014, 04:10 AM	#23
CRTZL1 Banned Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: N.Y. Posts: 1,545	Maybe it's a case of circumstance. Just cause yours went out at 44k doesn't mean that all z's will. Maybe it has to do with your driving style /manners, or maybe you just got unlucky. Either way it's a wear and tear part , No matter if your car is a ZL1 or a 500,000 dollar Ferrari.... suspension is always going to be wear and tear and need replacement with mileage... Definitely wouldn't call it an 'issue' Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

10-18-2014, 10:41 AM	#24
zogster Drives: 2014 RRM ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: IL Posts: 659	Is the cost $1k because it has the MRC fluid in it, or is this not the part that stores that fluid?

10-18-2014, 10:46 AM	#25
mbd314 Drives: 2013 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 91	Price doesn't include shipping, but an online retailer has that part number at $742 for two. I agree with others, although 44k seems premature, it all depends on driving style, roads etc. I've also seen people on here balk about tire prices, brake prices etc. One should know that a car with the sportiness and technology of the ZL1, things are going to be more expensive when it's time to replace them. Good luck on the labor end of things and happy driving!