03-12-2019, 08:09 AM | #1 |
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Going BOOSTED, What should I get?
Quick question to feel what I want to go with, Hearing from the ones who are already boosted I'd like to here your thoughts on what and why I should get that boosted application.
Any help is much appreciated as it will help me decide from hearing the pros and cons.
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03-12-2019, 08:42 AM | #2 |
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your going to get multiple opinions with this, IMO, at the end of the day its a matter of personal preference, goals etc. for me, after dire research, I chose magnuson. couldn't be happier.
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03-12-2019, 08:43 AM | #3 |
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I'm going with an ECS kit tomorrow actually. I like centri type blowers, it's not that I don't like PD ones, got a solid deal on the Paxton from ECS.
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03-12-2019, 08:47 AM | #4 |
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I did my research and decided to go with a PD because of the instant and broad, flat torque curve. The 2.9 Whipple fit my needs perfectly, but you couldn't go wrong with any of the popular choices. I'll take a PD over a Centri any day of the week on a street driven car, but ultimately it is a personal choice and part of the whole combination and performance goal for the engine.
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03-12-2019, 08:48 AM | #5 |
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I agree, but i'd like some input from everyone to see if they would go a different route after going with what they now have, I personally might end up with the hellion twin turbo kit but also want to go F1A94.
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03-12-2019, 08:49 AM | #6 | |
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03-12-2019, 09:16 AM | #7 |
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What are you looking for in boost? Do you want a supercharger or turbo(s)? Do you want a positive displacement supercharger or a centrifugal supercharger? Is the car going to be a street only car or a track only car or a combo of both?
Advantages: PD Supercharger: More instant power, more old school look (sitting on top of the engine), less external pieces to have go wrong (primarily tubing to and from intercooler), least expensive of the bunch. Centrifugal Supercharger: Typically more overall power than a PD supercharger, power builds as RPM's build, fairly straight forward install. Turbo(s): Typically more power than a PD supercharger, power builds as RPM's build, runs off of exhaust so no belts to mess with to drive your power, can choose to go with 1 or multiple, as much boost as you want to throw at it. Disadvantages: PD Supercharger: Prone to heat soak, limited power compared to other forced induction Centrifugal Supercharger: Power not available instantly, LOUD (subjective, but I always hear these things screaming even at idle), more parts to ensure are connected to keep making boost (tubing), expensive. Turbo(s): Power not available instantly, expensive, more parts to ensure are connected to keep making boost (tubing) I know this isn't all of the advantages or disadvantages of either, but it should give you a good idea.
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03-12-2019, 09:34 AM | #8 |
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I doubt many users will have direct experience with multiple forced induction formats on this platform.
I've got the Whipple on my car, and I'm happy with it. It's capable of any power level the car could ever see, so I can add fuel and boost and keep ramping up if I want. I track the car, and the blower works great on track, though (like mentioned above), I don't have any experience with turbos or other blowers on this car.
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03-12-2019, 09:35 AM | #9 | |
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I really like the sound o the Prochargers but at the same time i've seen quite a few dynos with low torque numbers (could be the tune and other parts that are combined with the setup). I'm looking for something you can daily and not worry about over heating or hurting the engine in the long run, for the most part when i drive my car i don't always get on it and with running meth i can insure i won't be on it all the time. Just looking for a good well rounded setup for great power and drive ability.
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03-12-2019, 09:53 AM | #10 |
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In the end you have to pick what you like the most vs what is affordable to you. We have some great options and tons of deals with code CAMARO6. Personally I like PD superchargers for the instant torque. They'll make more power then your short block can hold and make for a nice street car with serious power. If you want to build something more than a street car and plan on rebuilding your short block for boost, running true dual pumps w/return line, meth or possibly port injection then a Centri or a turbo set up is the way to go.
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03-12-2019, 11:05 AM | #12 |
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It is down at Vengeance right now. It is back up and running, but should have it on the dyno today or tomorrow.
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03-12-2019, 11:08 AM | #13 |
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PD or Turbo...todays PD units are efficient enough they make top end power like a Centri but with a better overall power curve. Turbo is ultimate but I haven't seen a setup I would want for a 6th gen. . The Whipple 2.9 builds power clear out to redline and has a nice fat torque curve. It's not all down low power with a huge torque spike on the hit, then power decreases as rpm climbs like the older PD stuff use to do. It's also cracked 1k whp on a ZL1.
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03-12-2019, 11:49 AM | #14 |
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Something to consider is what you already have, I know that you're H/C so if going boosted your N/A cam will be no good for boosted... however I've read that some PD blowers will tolerate an NA cam. So take that into consideration.
Im not boosted but read enough and have had many boosted cars in the past to say the following: 1st: Set your TARGET... How much power you want and dont cheat yourself and say I only want X-HP if you'll eventually end up wanting more. Targets can be HP related, 1/4 times, or even MPH in 1/4 times 2nd: BUDGET... In the boost life it goes as far as your pocket goes... 3rd: TYPE of RACING... You already said what type of racing you want and all FI will work fine... but based on option 1 & 2, that will determine which application would suit best. 4th: LIMITS of this LT1, base on your mods, you will run out of space i would say immediatly; either fuel first, pistons second, then more blower 3rd, then more fuel! And of course tuning, tuning and more tuning. Unless you plan on doing a full build right away the cool & bad thing with boosted is there will always be something to buy to make it "better" there's always something to get you $$$ out of your pocket but at the same time your car keeps improving so you really never get bored of the car itself.... So enjoy and be prepared for boost life lots of headaches BUT lots of smiles when all its working 100%.
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