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Old 09-18-2021, 07:44 PM   #15
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ARH 100% American made. Definitely my go to and the only one certified by GM for Camaro. I do like the guys at TSP for other stuff. Just not headers.

I may still end up going with ARH. I'm waiting to see what the online vendor says regarding return shipping and restocking fees, or if they will send me replacement parts.



As previously stated, ARH was my first choice if cost were not a consideration.
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Old 09-18-2021, 07:49 PM   #16
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Wow that’s crazy but there are tons of delays everywhere especially with big companies like tsp. I’ve been waiting forever for my heads to come in from them to get my car into the shop and it took 7 months. But all the companies are still dealing with delays from COVID still sadly.

The quality problems really surprises me, I have Texas speed headers 1 7/8 and they are amazing with great welds. I did not even know they made full exhaust kits and personally I wouldn’t do there full exhaust since they aren’t known for it minus their headers. Hopefully they get their act together.

As Bo stated earlier in this thread, I think it was mainly shipping damage, rather than a quality issue. The one exception to that statement is the collector on the end of one of the headers that was out of round. It looks like this collector was definitely out of round from the factory, as the headers were packed well, and the box they were in arrived in pristine condition.
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Old 09-25-2021, 11:21 PM   #17
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The online vendor told me they frequently receive exhaust systems in the same condition as mine and that they would just install them. I replied that they probably had some tools that I didn't have to make that work because I cannot slide the pipes together in the condition they are in. I then asked them what tools I needed to fix the pipes. They replied that they just used a hammer and pliers.




I was prepared that I might have to dimple them in some places for clearance, but I never thought I would have to correct deformities to get them to fit together. It doesn't seem like I should have to do that with a brand new exhaust system. Also, it doesn't seem conducive to a leak free exhaust.


Did any of you have to hammer and bend on your pipes to get them to fit together? Should I call BS on the online vendor?
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Old 09-25-2021, 11:42 PM   #18
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Now I did have to use a hammer and a block of wood to get the slip fit connections to get them fully seated together. And just a tip, you will have to dimple the pipes where the transmission crossmember bolts are and the connection where the cats or connection pipes meet the x pipe is pretty much in a bind. It wants to angle down so I just put it together the best I could and then took it to a welder and had them welded up on that joint to relax it there in that one spot.
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Old 09-26-2021, 03:37 AM   #19
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1 7/8" ARH LTs/full exhaust great fit, no dimpling, hammering or welding, except for adding bungs. The cats did blow out, but I attribute that to nitrous. I installed them about 8 years ago, give or take. Also, had the long tubes Jet-Hot coated. Had to grind off the coating for the slip joint to fit.
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Old 09-26-2021, 07:17 AM   #20
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I don't want to name the vendor, as TSP was responsible for the delays, not the vendor.



I do, however, think that vendors should update their websites to indicate whether a part is in stock or not. They should also post lead time estimates if the part is not in stock.



If I had known the system was not in stock when ordering, I most likely would've kept looking.
Problem is many companies are just the middle man and usually don’t stock much. You order through them and they order through the manufacture. They get a small amount for selling the item and never have to even see it.
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Old 09-26-2021, 10:58 AM   #21
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I may still end up going with ARH. I'm waiting to see what the online vendor says regarding return shipping and restocking fees, or if they will send me replacement parts.



As previously stated, ARH was my first choice if cost were not a consideration.
Sucks you have to add re-stock fees and then add higher priced headers but it will be worth it in the long run. Avoiding potential fitment issues could be worth it's weight in gold. Maybe give Texas Speed a call directly.


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Old 10-01-2021, 07:49 PM   #22
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Sucks you have to add re-stock fees and then add higher priced headers but it will be worth it in the long run. Avoiding potential fitment issues could be worth it's weight in gold. Maybe give Texas Speed a call directly.


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Old 10-15-2021, 07:38 PM   #23
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Final word on this is that I can either send the system back, or TSP will give me $50 to have an exhaust shop fix. I don't think $50 is going to cover it...
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Old 10-16-2021, 09:47 PM   #24
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Maybe count thy blessings you have product at all. I retired from a major driveline parts manufacturer in January of this year. We (they) prided themselves on 90%+ fill rates for decades, barring some market issues here and there. As did most reputable manufacturers across many industries.

I learned on Friday that they’re now operating at near only 28% fill rates. It’s horrible out there.
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