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Mr Twisty · 10-25-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayhawk

That is called a supercharger. There is no such thing as a belt driven turbocharger.

That reminds me of this question...
"What's the difference between mules, donkeys, burros, and jackasses?"

Turbo = turbine ... check

charger = air compressor ... check

belt driven ... check

You can call an ass a donkey, but it's still an ass.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-25-2009, 12:10 PM

I am curious why people would want a supercharged/turbocharged V6 over an LS3 from the factory....
There are many advantages the LS3 has....

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

That reminds me of this question...
"What's the difference between mules, donkeys, burros, and jackasses?"

Turbo = turbine ... check There is no turbine in a centrifugal supercharger.......
charger = air compressor ... check
belt driven ... check

You can call an ass a donkey, but it's still an ass.

....and supercharger is driven by a belt. A turbocharger is not. This is universally the case. I don't see how the two can be confused.

Mr Twisty · 10-25-2009, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I am curious why people would want a supercharged/turbocharged V6 over an LS3 from the factory....
There are many advantages the LS3 has....

....and supercharger is driven by a belt. A turbocharger is not. This is universally the case. I don't see how the two can be confused.

The rotrex is a belt driven turbine. You say toematoe I say tomotto

Number 3 · 10-25-2009, 02:03 PM

Ok then, I want to Tomatoecharge my Camaro.

Sweeeeet, can have fries with that too.

*GTAHVIT* · 10-25-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Ok then, I want to Tomatoecharge my Camaro.

Sweeeeet, can have fries with that too.

Sooooo are you saing the z28 will come with fries.....

clue maybe???

Number 3 · 10-25-2009, 02:06 PM

But, and I'm not saying this is right, but isn't a supercharger a mechanically driven air compressor and a turbocharger an exhaust gas driven compressor?

That's how I've always looked at them.

It just so happens that most superchargers are scroll type.

And that just makes me wonder what the definition of a SUPERcharger is vs. say just a charger?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Shno is that beer cold yet?

Mr Twisty · 10-25-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

But, and I'm not saying this is right, but isn't a supercharger a mechanically driven air compressor and a turbocharger an exhaust gas driven compressor?

That's how I've always looked at them.

It just so happens that most superchargers are scroll type.

And that just makes me wonder what the definition of a SUPERcharger is vs. say just a charger? EXXXactly... who decided the definition?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Shno is that beer cold yet?

Kind of like kids calling wheels...'rims'

It's almost all semantics.... If someone can prove me wrong, I'll kiss a pretty girl... in public even.

Call me a liar, but I think the rotrex is vane.

.... Of course even a scroll could be called a vane I guess... See there? It's those dam semantics.

... Oh yeah... Ram Air DOES exist beaches!

Number 3 · 10-25-2009, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Kind of like kids calling wheels...'rims'

It's almost all semantics.... If someone can prove me wrong, I'll kiss a pretty girl... in public even.

Call me a liar, but I think the rotrex is vane.

Sooooo, you will penalize yourself by kissing a pretty girl in public, ehhhh?

That's really risking alot. LOL

I might do that just for fun. Mrs. Number 3 and I are going grocery getting so I'll kiss her in public and tell you what horrible things befall me for doing that.

Number 3 · 10-25-2009, 03:08 PM

Yes, MC69, the Rotrex is a vane supercharger (it is very much in love with itself).

http://www.rotrex.com/index1.htm

It is a mechanically driven vane supercharger. So on the business end it looks like a turbo, but on the driving end it is a belt drive rather than exhaust gas vane driven.

It looks like an interesting drive mechanism too.

ShnOmac · 10-25-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Shno is that beer cold yet?

Makes you want to put your hand into your monitor dont it??

*GTAHVIT* · 10-25-2009, 03:24 PM

Hey Mac...

We took care of the place while you were gone.

Mr Twisty · 10-25-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Sooooo, you will penalize yourself by kissing a pretty girl in public, ehhhh?

That's really risking alot. LOL

I might do that just for fun. Mrs. Number 3 and I are going grocery getting so I'll kiss her in public and tell you what horrible things befall me for doing that.

Yeah, but what if I were to kiss her in public... NOW you see the risk

And NO... You guys don't get to choose the girl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 3

Yes, MC69, the Rotrex is a vane supercharger (it is very much in love with itself).

http://www.rotrex.com/index1.htm

It is a mechanically driven vane supercharger. So on the business end it looks like a turbo, but on the driving end it is a belt drive rather than exhaust gas vane driven.

It looks like an interesting drive mechanism too.

Yeah, but is it a TURBOcharger? Was turbo derived from turbine?

..... I forgot what we were talking about... Did someone mention cold beer and fries?

Oh yeah, Is an LS3 really just a fancy air compressor? A SUPERcompressor? (TURBOcompressor?)

ShnOmac · 10-25-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Hey Mac...

We took care of the place while you were gone.

Lol.... thaaaaaanks!

Now if only we had something to spice it up....... Like some fresh news

Number 3 · 10-25-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Makes you want to put your hand into your monitor dont it??

Thanks, now my monitor has a big scratch on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Hey Mac...

We took care of the place while you were gone.

Yeah, too bad as a moderator you had to clean up too by eliminating all the posts on that car that doesn't exist. Shnomac would be sad knowing everything you deleted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Lol.... thaaaaaanks!

Now if only we had something to spice it up....... Like some fresh news

Straight off the presses......................the Camaro is selling like hot cakes.

10-25-2009, 02:03 PM	#130
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,169 View My Garage	Ok then, I want to Tomatoecharge my Camaro. Sweeeeet, can have fries with that too. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

10-25-2009, 02:06 PM	#132
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,169 View My Garage	But, and I'm not saying this is right, but isn't a supercharger a mechanically driven air compressor and a turbocharger an exhaust gas driven compressor? That's how I've always looked at them. It just so happens that most superchargers are scroll type. And that just makes me wonder what the definition of a SUPERcharger is vs. say just a charger? Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Shno is that beer cold yet? __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

10-25-2009, 03:08 PM	#135
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,169 View My Garage	Yes, MC69, the Rotrex is a vane supercharger (it is very much in love with itself). http://www.rotrex.com/index1.htm It is a mechanically driven vane supercharger. So on the business end it looks like a turbo, but on the driving end it is a belt drive rather than exhaust gas vane driven. It looks like an interesting drive mechanism too. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

10-25-2009, 03:24 PM	#137
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	Hey Mac... We took care of the place while you were gone. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

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