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Old 04-01-2013, 09:31 AM   #197
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Aerodynamics? More power to answer that(insert manly grunts here).

Look at the F-4 Phantom, it's living proof if you put big enough engines on a brick... it WILL fly.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:36 AM   #198
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Aerodynamics? More power to answer that(insert manly grunts here).

Look at the F-4 Phantom, it's living proof if you put big enough engines on a brick... it WILL fly.
I'll take power over aerodynamics, but at least make sure that the suspension is there to support it. Without that, all your power drives you right into a wall at the track.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:03 AM   #199
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I still wouldn't call that cheap. I plan to buy a 2010 or 2011 Camaro SS later this year and then build, but it'll still cost $25k just to start. Add a Maggie for $6k, a full exhaust with headers for at least $2k, short shifter, those brakes, a full suspension upgrade, and all the weight reduction. That is far from a cheap build, and I haven't even addressed aerodynamics, wheels, and tires.
aim lower... a beat to hell one and rebuild it with GOOD stuff instead of stocker stuff.

basically find a rolling chassis SS even if it has a million miles on it..
rip out interior.
put in cage and some Recaros remove rear seats and anything else not tied down
rebuild engine from bottom to top with end goal in mind ( boost or NA)
complete race coil over suspension and a brakes upgrade.
betting you can be at this level for under 40k total
if you find the right donor car.

No bling.. no options.. just a bad mother street/track machine.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:24 AM   #200
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Mod the z/28 for me . Ive done all of that other stuff before. I wanna see what the z/28 can do with my mods.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:40 AM   #201
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Mod the z/28 for me . Ive done all of that other stuff before. I wanna see what the z/28 can do with my mods.
same thing any stripped SS with a LSX in it can.. prolly worse since it is factory and not built and tuned for the purpose.
nothing that special.
overpriced.. collector/car show car is what it will end up.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:46 AM   #202
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What we do know is that stripped ss won't have any value after . And you won't even b close to getting what u invested. I know I would never give close to what ur asking
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:47 AM   #203
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I'm thinking it'll be $59,995. Depending on the options, it may go upwards to $64,995.
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What we do know is that stripped ss won't have any value after . And you won't even b close to getting what u invested. I know I would never give close to what ur asking
and unless you put that Z/28 in a climate controlled warehouse and NEVER drive it it wont be worth anything either especially if driven on the track as they were meant for.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:55 AM   #205
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Lol. Mayb ur right buddy , hopefully 1 day we can meet and put the cars on side each other and finish this . How bout that
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:00 PM   #206
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Having been schooled on difference of a Z/28 and Z28 , the price is inline what was said by the spokesman during the reveal "the most highly collectible Camaro of all time"

Camaro Team listened, gave every Z/28 diehard what they wanted

weight reduction
LS7
big brakes
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Home run for sure...............
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:20 PM   #207
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aim lower... a beat to hell one and rebuild it with GOOD stuff instead of stocker stuff.

basically find a rolling chassis SS even if it has a million miles on it..
rip out interior.
put in cage and some Recaros remove rear seats and anything else not tied down
rebuild engine from bottom to top with end goal in mind ( boost or NA)
complete race coil over suspension and a brakes upgrade.
betting you can be at this level for under 40k total
if you find the right donor car.

No bling.. no options.. just a bad mother street/track machine.
Why bother with a late model Camaro then? Go buy a Fox body Mustang and you could accomplish this for much, much cheaper.

Sorry, but I think the "well if I start modding <xyz> car and it'll be better than <abc> car!" is just about the lamest argument/excuse in the history of the internet. You can mod anything to be fast, that's really not the point. The Z28 is a badass car. Sure, you can mod your SS to perform like the Z28, but at the end of the day, you still have an SS and he still has a Z28.
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:31 PM   #208
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We must have attended the same school.

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Why bother with a late model Camaro then? Go buy a Fox body Mustang and you could accomplish this for much, much cheaper.

Sorry, but I think the "well if I start modding <xyz> car and it'll be better than <abc> car!" is just about the lamest argument/excuse in the history of the internet. You can mod anything to be fast, that's really not the point. The Z28 is a badass car. Sure, you can mod your SS to perform like the Z28, but at the end of the day, you still have an SS and he still has a Z28.
I was taught very well too. Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:33 PM   #209
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C7 Z51? It may not have Carbon brakes, but the stingray is definitely on par with the Z28 performance wise. My guess is the Z/28 will be between 60-70k. Thats C7 territory, and to be honest with you guys, Id take a base stingray over any Camaro.

The Z/28 is fairly priced, look at the tech its sporting. But anything over $60,000 for a modern American pony car is a bit much in my book.
Completely agree.

I was going to say the 'vette too, preferably a used C6 Z06. I also agree in that I wouldn't pay $60k for a pony car either, Ford, Chevy or Dodge. That's bonafide sports car territory and that's what I'd rather have if performance is the name of the game.
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Old 04-01-2013, 12:44 PM   #210
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Aerodynamics? More power to answer that(insert manly grunts here).

Look at the F-4 Phantom, it's living proof if you put big enough engines on a brick... it WILL fly.
Lol. And therein lies the problem. You don't want it to fly! That's why you need the aero.
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