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tededfred · 07-09-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman71

No, there would have to be major rework to how things are done in the PDIM to get around this issue. The indexes are stored in PDIM's internal memory and that memory gets maxed out at 2500 songs. A very unfortunately consequence to cost cutting...

That's a shame. It's so CLOSE to being a really cool feature, but the 2500 song limit, IMO is unacceptable. I doesn't take more than a few KB of storage to house an index of songs. I mean, its 2009... data storage is virtually free at those capacities. I guess we can chalk it up to an 'old GM' decision.

My work around for this will be to have a handful of thumbdrives in the car

codeman71 · 07-09-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tededfred

That's a shame. It's so CLOSE to being a really cool feature, but the 2500 song limit, IMO is unacceptable. I doesn't take more than a few KB of storage to house an index of songs. I mean, its 2009... data storage is virtually free at those capacities. I guess we can chalk it up to an 'old GM' decision.

My work around for this will be to have a handful of thumbdrives in the car

Yeah I totally agree and understand where you're coming from. You can probably imagine how I feel having worked so hard on the interface for it to be crippled with this song limit.

CamaroSkooter · 07-09-2009, 11:17 AM

I don't think it has so much to do with the physical problems with storing more than 2500 songs, it probably has more to do with how long it would take to index over 2500 songs.

dstairs · 07-09-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman71

Yeah I totally agree and understand where you're coming from. You can probably imagine how I feel having worked so hard on the interface for it to be crippled with this song limit.

This has been wonderfully informative thread. Thank you for you 'after hour' dedication to our new babies!

MTron · 07-09-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 2SSRS

Hi i have 2 Q
#1 dos the PDIM's software only recognize fat32 formatted USB's or is NTFS filesystem OK .
#2 is there a PDIM's out there that has a internal memory larger than this one that can be had for more $ that will store more than 2500 songs.

reasonably sure only fat32

besides NTFS is defiantly not the best choice for usb keys. fat32 is much more compatible with mac and linux and most devices that have usb inputs (tv's stereos, car stereos ect)

codeman71 · 07-09-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dstairs

This has been wonderfully informative thread. Thank you for you 'after hour' dedication to our new babies!

You're very welcome! Being that this was my first project at GM I have a special bond with the Camaro

Embalmer · 07-09-2009, 01:16 PM

Codeman71,

Will the shuffle problem get resolved eventually??

I think I might wait for the update until then. The USB indexing issues I can wait to fix... but this shuffle thing not remembering drives me crazy.

Also, did this address the issue of not remembering which input (xm, usb, aux) was being last used if a USB device is plugged in? (aka always switching to USB if inserted even if you were listening to XM before).

Thanks man!

codeman71 · 07-09-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Embalmer

Codeman71,

Will the shuffle problem get resolved eventually??

That's tough to say. I'm not involved on this project anymore since it went off to production land, so I'm not as familiar with the future plans as I once was. I know they're looking at improvements to the PDIM but it's not clear to me what they'll be able to do with the current hardware vs. adding more memory in future modules. Sorry I can't offer up more info.

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Originally Posted by Embalmer

Codeman71,
Also, did this address the issue of not remembering which input (xm, usb, aux) was being last used if a USB device is plugged in? (aka always switching to USB if inserted even if you were listening to XM before).

Yes, I believe this was one of the things that they fixed in this update.

BTW, thanks for your video you posted a long time ago about the USB interface. I showed my management how excited you and others are about the feature to just reinforce how important this is to customers. So thanks!

Shadowmind · 07-09-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman71

BTW, thanks for your video you posted a long time ago about the USB interface. I showed my management how excited you and others are about the feature to just reinforce how important this is to customers. So thanks!

Having the ability to listen to music via a native USB stick is huge... Major props to you all for doing it.

Any plans on a GMPP upgraded chip for the PDIM for more memory? Maybe that could get around some of the issues with song limits and would allow you all to program specialized software modules for future updates.

I'd really love to see the car computer to have the ability to install custom apps.

Embalmer · 07-09-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by codeman71

That's tough to say. I'm not involved on this project anymore since it went off to production land, so I'm not as familiar with the future plans as I once was. I know they're looking at improvements to the PDIM but it's not clear to me what they'll be able to do with the current hardware vs. adding more memory in future modules. Sorry I can't offer up more info.

Yes, I believe this was one of the things that they fixed in this update.

BTW, thanks for your video you posted a long time ago about the USB interface. I showed my management how excited you and others are about the feature to just reinforce how important this is to customers. So thanks!

Cool thanks! Wow, my video really got around I guess! Glad they got to see it - it's a HUGE deal to me and to a lot of people. Easily the most exciting infotainment feature of this car IMO.

My car is actually at the dealership right now...I think I'll have them do this update for the heck of it (getting a new muffler - mine has that annoying baffle issue!)

Thanks again man.

Embalmer · 07-09-2009, 01:38 PM

Btw, just had my dealer look into this - apparently my VIN didn't show this update available yet - I have to have it back in in a few days anyway since they had to order a new muffler for me. Hopefully it shows up then.

Primus · 07-09-2009, 01:38 PM

It would be extremely awesome if they could do the PDIM upgrade via onstar. They can obviously transfer data back and forth. This would be amazing.

eapoll11 · 07-09-2009, 01:40 PM

do we know which tpw it will be installed at the factory? 8/3 by any chance?

UCF w00t · 07-09-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Primus

It would be extremely awesome if they could do the PDIM upgrade via onstar. They can obviously transfer data back and forth. This would be amazing.

OTA car updates... very intriguing.

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Originally Posted by codeman71

BTW, thanks for your video you posted a long time ago about the USB interface. I showed my management how excited you and others are about the feature to just reinforce how important this is to customers. So thanks!

That's very cool! I hope they took it to heart. They want to focus on the "youth" market and this sort of stuff is a big deal to us (I hope I'm young enough to count as part of that hah).

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CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	I don't think it has so much to do with the physical problems with storing more than 2500 songs, it probably has more to do with how long it would take to index over 2500 songs.

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Embalmer 2G1FT1EWXA9103351 Drives: 2SS RS, SIM, 6pd, 20"Alum Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canton, Michigan Posts: 607 View My Garage	Codeman71, Will the shuffle problem get resolved eventually?? I think I might wait for the update until then. The USB indexing issues I can wait to fix... but this shuffle thing not remembering drives me crazy. Also, did this address the issue of not remembering which input (xm, usb, aux) was being last used if a USB device is plugged in? (aka always switching to USB if inserted even if you were listening to XM before). Thanks man!