FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge

[HartfordRacingCaptain]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Real talk the state of GM's dealership network and salespeople is pathetic. I literally had to walk her through the build.

When I did my Colorado build back in November, before some dealers even knew the books opened, I went to 4 different dealerships before finding one whose inventory manager was actually in the office, and they all asked me if I worked for a different dealer due to the level of knowledge I had on the process and available options. The forums are a treasure trove.

[FenwickHockey65]

Honestly I plan on calling them on Friday to make sure they actually ordered the damn thing. I wasn't super confident in their abilities.

[FenwickHockey65]

https://insideevs.com/news/652682/th...R-Pwod4gq4FfNY


Cadillac reveals 3 new EVs this year, launching next year.

[BluinSC]

https://www-motortrend-com.cdn.amppr...test-review%2F

Not exactly news per se but I absolutely love Motor trend destroying the TRD Pro vs. ZR2.

Toyota made a massive mistake coming out out with that after 15 years.

[BuckeyeROC]

Originally Posted by BluinSC

https://www-motortrend-com.cdn.amppr...test-review%2F

Not exactly news per se but I absolutely love Motor trend destroying the TRD Pro vs. ZR2.

Toyota made a massive mistake coming out out with that after 15 years.

I have no idea who would pay that much for a ZR2 instead of just stepping up to the TRX. The ZR2 is a nice truck, but not a good value. My neighbor has a TRD Pro. Also a nice truck, but I still went with the TRX for the price difference. The TRD with that V6 also sounds TERRIBLE.

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

I have no idea who would pay that much for a ZR2 instead of just stepping up to the TRX. The ZR2 is a nice truck, but not a good value. My neighbor has a TRD Pro. Also a nice truck, but I still went with the TRX for the price difference. The TRD with that V6 also sounds TERRIBLE.

Isn’t there still quite a price difference, especially given ZR2 is almost fully loaded?

[BluinSC]

23 TRX is 84k base not including markups. You could slap a supercharger on the Chevy and come pretty close with the price difference.

Raptor R is over 100k iirc.

[FenwickHockey65]

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/03...-spied-photos/


2024 Traverse.

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by BluinSC

23 TRX is 84k base

Quick browse of listings show TRX is at 90s avg with examples in 6 figures optioned. ZR2, high 60s into 70s. Significant. I'd also point out the ZR2 is more livable from a daily perspective.

[genxer]

GM should start a division of COPO powersports LT1/LT4 super side-by-sides, to counter the TRX and Raptor F-150.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

I have no idea who would pay that much for a ZR2 instead of just stepping up to the TRX. The ZR2 is a nice truck, but not a good value. My neighbor has a TRD Pro. Also a nice truck, but I still went with the TRX for the price difference. The TRD with that V6 also sounds TERRIBLE.

You don't know why someone would go with a truck that's $13,000 cheaper?

[BuckeyeROC]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

You don't know why someone would go with a truck that's $13,000 cheaper?

Not at that price level, no. The TRX is a relative bargain. Similar to the way the F-bodies used to be.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

I have no idea who would pay that much for a ZR2 instead of just stepping up to the TRX. The ZR2 is a nice truck, but not a good value. My neighbor has a TRD Pro. Also a nice truck, but I still went with the TRX for the price difference. The TRD with that V6 also sounds TERRIBLE.

1) you have to find that unicorn and deal with markups when you do so not a bargan.
2) The ZR2 was available with supplier pricing so ~4,300 under MSRP for me.

[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

I have no idea who would pay that much for a ZR2 instead of just stepping up to the TRX. The ZR2 is a nice truck, but not a good value. My neighbor has a TRD Pro. Also a nice truck, but I still went with the TRX for the price difference. The TRD with that V6 also sounds TERRIBLE.

The TRX MSRP was $23k more than my ZR2.

I bought the ZR2 because I didn't want a $92k truck that gets low double digit or single digit MPG. Plus it's a Ram and I don't get employee pricing on a Ram. So, $23k difference becomes $30k difference. I'm glad you think $30k is such a drop in the bucket that you would step up but it made zero sense for me.