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snizzle · 06-08-2020, 08:25 AM

I mean, is it really much better? Or just different?

*DGthe3* · 06-08-2020, 07:28 PM

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Cleaner? Yes. But a whole new set of problems to solve for manufacturers and owners. From what I've seen, FCEV is best for repeatable routes (minimize amount of infrastructure to be built) and it is much better than battery electric for management of heavy loads. So, in theory, an over-the-road truck based delivery fleet (UPS, FedEx, DHL) that can build hydrogen refueling stations in their depot network would be the killer app for FCEV.

https://www.trucks.com/2020/04/21/da...el-cell-truck/

On a related note: on Autoline After Hours this week (live Thursday afternoon) they're going to have the CEO of a company that is working on fuel cell semis (Nikola Motors).

*DGthe3* · 06-08-2020, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

I mean, is it really much better? Or just different?

Generally, the new SUV interiors have been pretty well received from what I can tell. But you can look up the '21 Tahoe & Suburban and judge for yourself.

snizzle · 06-09-2020, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Generally, the new SUV interiors have been pretty well received from what I can tell. But you can look up the '21 Tahoe & Suburban and judge for yourself.

I did, and I guess i'm underwhelmed if the goal is to compete with upscale Ram options.

Source: https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/06...ban-exclusive/

KMPrenger · 06-09-2020, 09:54 AM

Don't forget that the GMC Yukon gets a unique interior, and the Denali trim gets another unique interior.

I wonder if these will go into the GMC Sierra? Or will GM keep the interiors in the trucks mostly the same like they are now?

I think these interiors are nice...even the Chevy is nice for a Chevy with the GMC Yukon interiors feeling appropriately more upscale. That said...these do not feel like truck interiors to me. I think the trucks will still retain some of that "truck-like" quality in the interior.

FenwickHockey65 · 06-09-2020, 10:06 AM

The Denali interior actually looks way more truck-ish than the standard SUV interior.

CamaroSkooter · 06-09-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

On a related note: on Autoline After Hours this week (live Thursday afternoon) they're going to have the CEO of a company that is working on fuel cell semis (Nikola Motors).

Have you seen the info on their "Badger" truck?

snizzle · 06-09-2020, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

The Denali interior actually looks way more truck-ish than the standard SUV interior.

Honestly, I don't think it's necessarily design or ergonomics that's the problem. For LTZ+, it's upgraded materials. A more premium look and feel. A larger screen. These can be 60-70k vehicles. I don't expect it in my Colorado. I know that's easier said than done after you've designed and validated the existing interior which is probably why they just want to lift it from the upcoming SUVs.

lbls1 · 06-10-2020, 09:03 AM

Chevy needs to re-think the shifter. The dash button shifter is a weakness in appearance. At least Cadillac had some sense by giving you what appears to be a shift lever (electronic). I do not look forward to the pickup interior updates.

FenwickHockey65 · 06-10-2020, 01:33 PM

Malibu reportedly dead after 2023.

shaffe · 06-10-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Malibu reportedly dead after 2023.

So the american makes are just gonna bail out on sedans totally. I mean saw it coming but kind of hard to believe its actually happening

DC5 · 06-10-2020, 06:18 PM

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Malibu reportedly dead after 2023.

Good. GM hasn't made a competent FWD sedan that substantively competes with the Japanese offerings . . . ever. Unfortunately, it now appears that GM's poor build quality/quality control and excessive cost cutting are affecting vehicles such as the Equinox and Traverse, which, along with other CUVs, have eroded sales of the traditional family sedan. How long will it be before GM surrenders the CUV market and only builds the Corvette and full-size trucks and SUVs?

FenwickHockey65 · 06-15-2020, 02:39 PM

More of the 2021 midsize trucks.

snizzle · 06-15-2020, 02:59 PM

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More of the 2021 midsize trucks.

Kinda blah. The Colorado looks awkward to me. Glad I didn't wait.

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