[Memphis43]

This refresh would sell like hot cakes.


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[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

It has been broke for 3 yrs... Sales never saw a pick up when the gen6 came out and now have pretty much tanked compared to competition. Btw Mustang seems in the same sinking boat after the latest refresh. GM had to do something different as doing more of the same never leads to better results. So they changed the overall look of the car completely. Styling is subjective and only sales numbers will prove if their refresh choices were correct or not. Personally i see a lot of retro split bumper cues on the SS grille and dont mind it at all. But it is a very different look thats for sure.

NB theyve raised the height of the front splitter. A lot.
So this also contributes to a very different look. Less aggressive imo but easier on the curbs. Thats proly why they went with an extractor hood to increase front downforce and why they added Vette like rubber dams below the splitter...

I wouldn't say they've tanked. One thing hurting Camaro is that GM just hasn't put any good incentives on these cars in like 2 years. Look how much more expensive the 6th gen is over a 5th gen from 8 years ago. It just costs a lot more to get into a Camaro now than it did with the 5th gen. The Challenger is on a platform that dates back to the Model A Ford so they can afford to throw big incentives at that car. That's a big reason that its sales have increased.

[CamaroSue]

Since they wanted different front fascias, they should have gone the C6 Grand Sport/Z06 route. Given the SS more of a ZL1 look. Wouldn't have the supercharged engine, but also wouldn't have the supercharged price. I don't know many people that don't like the look of the current ZL1. I think that would be a big seller while waiting for the 7th gen to come out. That's what I would have done - but nobody asked me to be in charge of the refresh.

[Detroit Muscle]

Unless the SS 1LE looks better to me(I hope it does), looks like Ill be buying a used C6 until the 7th gen comes.

[7WSM]

When I keep on looking at the redesign, the look is slightly growing on me. I think at this point, I need to see this car in person to really hate on it more.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Never noticed until now but the bow tie is in that location on a lot of product so I think its about design language more than function. It has to make a miniscule difference in air flow.

I've acclimated to the SS completely and have not problem with the flow tie. I daily drive my 16 SS blade spoiler so ...if Chevy offered to swap me into a 19 I'll gladly be rolling advertisement for them. So folks and be exposed to it.

Yes indeed a bowtie in that location incl blacked out belt to separate top and bottom grilles is as old as Chevy. But rather new to Camaro...

[TrackClub]

Great renders thanks!

Could you please do another set if possible with the fingers but original black belt and flowtie on it vs above it? Many thx!

[Battlezone580]

I like the new look, it's very modern and trendy. The new aero and infotainment upgrades are a nice touch. Change is always good, I'm sure this will help boost sales.

Its sad people are against even the smallest changes in life, even a simple refresh of a car they do not own or ever will. These same people are so against the change they start arguments with people in their own community over a different opinion.

Change is good, the purpose of life is to move forward and take risks (for individuals and companies). If your reading this step back and ask your self why do you dislike this refresh and why does your opinion even matter? GM has made the changes are you going to go against the company you like? If so why even comment at all knowing new Camaro adopters may like this refresh better? Everyone can go buy a used 17' or 18' if they like the look better.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

I wouldn't say they've tanked. One thing hurting Camaro is that GM just hasn't put any good incentives on these cars in like 2 years. Look how much more expensive the 6th gen is over a 5th gen from 8 years ago. It just costs a lot more to get into a Camaro now than it did with the 5th gen. The Challenger is on a platform that dates back to the Model A Ford so they can afford to throw big incentives at that car. That's a big reason that its sales have increased.

If the only way they can get really strong sales is by putting cash on the hood..that's a bad sign.

I remember when the 5th Gen came out..people were gobbling them up at MSRP, or even MSRP+..sometimes 10,000 a month, with many at MSRP.

The fact is that the Gen 6 got more expensive and the market is saturated with Camaro..same with the Mustang and Challenger. The difference is you can reliably get below MSRP with the Mustang (X-plan) and FCA usually has pretty good promos on the Challenger.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Battlezone580

I like the new look, it's very modern and trendy. The new aero and infotainment upgrades are a nice touch. Change is always good, I'm sure this will help boost sales.

Its sad people are against even the smallest changes in life, even a simple refresh of a car they do not own or ever will. These same people are so against the change they start arguments with people in their own community over a different opinion.

Change is good, the purpose of life is to move forward and take risks (for individuals and companies). If your reading this step back and ask your self why do you dislike this refresh and why does your opinion even matter? GM has made the changes are you going to go against the company you like? If so why even comment at all knowing new Camaro adopters may like this refresh better? Everyone can go buy a used 17' or 18' if they like the look better.

No one is seriously against change, I think people are simply sensitive to degraded looks. @Memphis43's take on the front bumper is pretty good, for example.

What people take issue with is backward change that makes things worse or inconsistent, which isn't good, and btw neither are l'art pour l'art changes that add no value. Change, while absolutely necessary (in agreement with you), is not automatically good "by definition", it needs to be worked out thoroughly and earn acceptance, which is progressively more difficult as a product matures.

But then again I know this opinion doesn't matter either

[AZCamaroFan]

there you go. we're all just 'Haters' .
No one liked the 5th. No one liked the 2016.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

there you go. we're all just 'Haters' .
No one liked the 5th. No one liked the 2016.

Al O is a blowhard jackass, someone really should put a muzzle on him or send him out to pasture.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

there you go. we're all just 'Haters' .
No one liked the 5th. No one liked the 2016.

You are overly generalizing the situation and this reply is out of context. So dont just spread hate and feel sorry for yourself as there is no reason for that.

[Memphis43]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

there you go. we're all just 'Haters' .

No one liked the 5th. No one liked the 2016.

I loved the 6th gen release.


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