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scv_guy · 08-20-2018, 04:13 PM

Ok so we have all heard turbo cars and 800whp is almost common on SBE. I know it all revolves around the tune and good fuel, but what kind of power are people making on a PD blower with a SBE?

hou30guy · 08-20-2018, 04:16 PM

Same if u have injectors and pumps

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AGP Turbo · 08-20-2018, 05:21 PM

Are we talking truly stock SS short block or what dragracers claim to be stock short block? LOL. Two totally different things. Love all the SS guys with LSA stock short blocks who claim SBE.

With regularity and repeat-ability about 680-700whp is all I've seen. Everything over that seems to be unicorn territory or broken shortly after dyno.
We've seen unicorn turbo numbers up around 1000whp but they are not the norm or easily duplicated by anyone.

scv_guy · 08-20-2018, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AGP Turbo

Are we talking truly stock SS short block or what dragracers claim to be stock short block? LOL. Two totally different things. Love all the SS guys with LSA stock short blocks who claim SBE.

With regularity and repeat-ability about 680-700whp is all I've seen. Everything over that seems to be unicorn territory or broken shortly after dyno.
We've seen unicorn turbo numbers up around 1000whp but they are not the norm or easily duplicated by anyone.

Nope stock ss SBE with cam. Stock head bolts and all.
Not referring to an LSA blower something like a whipple 2.9

94guy · 08-21-2018, 04:49 AM

not sure about the dyno numbers only street tuned I went 9.46@146 backed it up with a 9.51@146 SBE

joshnmn · 08-21-2018, 07:28 AM

9.5 is getting it!

Nicely done

scv_guy · 08-21-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 94guy

not sure about the dyno numbers only street tuned I went 9.46@146 backed it up with a 9.51@146 SBE

what's your setup?

Camaro Dude · 08-21-2018, 03:48 PM

9.51@146 SBE?

SSBUSDRVR · 08-22-2018, 12:19 PM

LS3 SBE #7 failed here in the 650s. EForce.

600hp-lpe · 08-22-2018, 01:28 PM

what is SBE?

hou30guy · 08-22-2018, 01:30 PM

Fail at 650 must have been a crappy tune. Find a new tuner, sbe is stock bottom end

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Batmanntexas · 08-22-2018, 09:18 PM

Like others have said: SBE (stock bottom end) longevity comes down to tune, fueling, application (daily driver, race, etc), and luck. I say luck because all of the other things could be spot on, and you could have a component just fail (maybe that part was made on a Monday or Friday, Murphy's Law, etc).

Personally, I'm SBE, mild cam, fuel system, injectors, good tune, ported stock heads, and about 10-11lbs of boost. On 93 octane, it made 736RWHP and on E85 it made 806RWHP (before ported heads).

Mine is daily driven, been to the track a half-dozen times or so, and spirited driving pretty regularly. 47K miles so far without any issues.

Camaro Dude · 08-22-2018, 09:26 PM

Shit happens.

Life in general.

hammdo · 08-22-2018, 09:36 PM

In the old days, SBE was small block engine (Chevy) ;o)

-Don

08-20-2018, 04:13 PM	#1
scv_guy Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Valencia Posts: 1,305	PD blower on a SBE Ok so we have all heard turbo cars and 800whp is almost common on SBE. I know it all revolves around the tune and good fuel, but what kind of power are people making on a PD blower with a SBE?

08-21-2018, 04:49 AM	#5
94guy Drives: 99 Camaro; 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,966	not sure about the dyno numbers only street tuned I went 9.46@146 backed it up with a 9.51@146 SBE __________________ 2018 Camaro SS A8 Edelbrock 2650 FBO 93 octane 9.54@144 Pump E 9.59@152 2010 Camaro Stock bottom end with 46,000+miles JRE remote tuning Whipple A6 and Drive it to and from the track 9.46@146

08-21-2018, 03:48 PM	#8
Camaro Dude Drives: ‘13 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 3,904	9.51@146 SBE? Last edited by Camaro Dude; 05-18-2019 at 09:23 PM.

08-22-2018, 12:19 PM	#9
SSBUSDRVR Drives: '11 2SS/RS IBM/BLK M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central FL Posts: 3,748 View My Garage	LS3 SBE #7 failed here in the 650s. EForce. __________________ '11 IBM 2SS/RS Built and Tuned by Vengeance Racing Vengeance PCM Vengeance Racing Mast Black Label LS7 Headed 416 ProCharger Stage II D1X Race ,Monster Triple,Alky Control Meth Inj, Forgestar F14 Drag Version and a bunch of other blah blah blah.838/688 at 12lbs Street Friendly

08-22-2018, 09:18 PM	#12
Batmanntexas Drives: 2012 Camaro SS (2SS) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,372 View My Garage	Like others have said: SBE (stock bottom end) longevity comes down to tune, fueling, application (daily driver, race, etc), and luck. I say luck because all of the other things could be spot on, and you could have a component just fail (maybe that part was made on a Monday or Friday, Murphy's Law, etc). Personally, I'm SBE, mild cam, fuel system, injectors, good tune, ported stock heads, and about 10-11lbs of boost. On 93 octane, it made 736RWHP and on E85 it made 806RWHP (before ported heads). Mine is daily driven, been to the track a half-dozen times or so, and spirited driving pretty regularly. 47K miles so far without any issues. __________________ 745RWHP/634RWTQ on 93 @ 10psi 806/676 on E85 @ 10psi COTW 9/8/14

08-20-2018, 04:16 PM	#2
hou30guy Drives: 2011 convertible 2ss/rs Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 971	Same if u have injectors and pumps Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

08-20-2018, 05:21 PM	#3
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	Are we talking truly stock SS short block or what dragracers claim to be stock short block? LOL. Two totally different things. Love all the SS guys with LSA stock short blocks who claim SBE. With regularity and repeat-ability about 680-700whp is all I've seen. Everything over that seems to be unicorn territory or broken shortly after dyno. We've seen unicorn turbo numbers up around 1000whp but they are not the norm or easily duplicated by anyone.

08-21-2018, 07:28 AM	#6
joshnmn 2&THEHIT Drives: 5th Gen Camaro; 5th Gen Ram 3500 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Garner, NC Posts: 1,012 View My Garage	9.5 is getting it! Nicely done

08-22-2018, 01:28 PM	#10
600hp-lpe Drives: 2010 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NH Posts: 4,788	what is SBE?

08-22-2018, 01:30 PM	#11
hou30guy Drives: 2011 convertible 2ss/rs Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 971	Fail at 650 must have been a crappy tune. Find a new tuner, sbe is stock bottom end Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

08-22-2018, 09:26 PM	#13
Camaro Dude Drives: ‘13 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 3,904	Shit happens. Life in general.

08-22-2018, 09:36 PM	#14
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	In the old days, SBE was small block engine (Chevy) ;o) -Don __________________ 747 RWHP 794 RWTQ "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." - Enzo Ferrari See My Build: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577