07-07-2012, 08:36 PM | #71 |
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I'm hearing you. I believe the 1LE with an LS7, ZL1 brakes, Aero and other minor tweaks is all that's needed. This would compete with the Boss LS. The 1LE will compete with the Boss.
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07-07-2012, 10:19 PM | #72 | |
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With a much smaller power difference and more torque going to the 1LE, the Boss/1LE matchup will be interesting. The weight difference should be about the same as the big boys.
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07-08-2012, 02:49 AM | #73 |
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What ever Chevy does, they better do it soon. I need a new car and don't know how much longer I can hold out for a Z28.
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07-08-2012, 12:54 PM | #74 |
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Amen!
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07-08-2012, 01:41 PM | #76 |
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well I am also looking on trading up but it sure is taking some time. I have had my car since June of '09 and not that the improvements of the '11-'13 are that much different, I do like most of them (dash, hud) it does not warrant me trading up as of yet. I have been sitting on the fact that the Z/28 will be resurrected and in my opinion with the 5.3L direct injected motor with MR in a '14 MY camaro. I do not want to wait for the 6th gen because who knows if I will like the styling of it and absolutely love my car now. Sure my car will be paid off in a year and I could change out the dash, add a cam(change motor or add blower) and some way add MR to it, but it will never be to me a Z/28!
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07-08-2012, 03:34 PM | #77 |
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As I see it;
Mustang V-6=Camaro V-6..........Who really cares Mustang GT>CamaroSS..............Lighter and more hp makes the difference Boss Mustang vs. ??????.............Better get it right with the LT1 or Z/28 or whatever they decide to call it. GT500>=ZL1.............................Not quite the knock out punch Al and Scott had bragged about. GM engineers need to quit making excuses for why they fail, and just use their talents to make winning vehicles. Watch CNBC's show on Ford, when the engineers where sat down with CR testers, they wanted to make excuses about why they did things the way they did. Ford's CEO told them to shut up and LISTEN to what was wrong with the cars. Maybe the Camaro team needs to have the same style meeting.
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What GM said was the "1LE is capable of a sub-3:00 lap @ VIR". YOU can draw whatever conclusions YOU wish from that statement... Let's NOT start a "war of words" BEFORE the 1LE arrives in showrooms... MRC is NOT "mandatory" for a Z28. The 1LE's enhanced FE4 will suit just fine. 1LE @ 3920 lb. Curb = Z28 Curb with wet LS7, excepting the 6-piston front Brembos from the ZL1. 4000 lb Z28 is not a necessary stat... Using the 1LE as the basis for an aftermarket-installed LS7 suffers two significant problems: NO GM warranty, bumper-to-bumper; Cost-prohibitive (the pull-out LS3's value would not cover the re-and-re charges, so you're on the hook for the LS7's full $13K cost + MORE = ZL1 money, without a suitable warranty) |
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07-08-2012, 05:43 PM | #82 |
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^Opps, sorry, no it doesn't.
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07-09-2012, 11:29 AM | #84 |
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It's easier for them to challenge a rival in this case cause they know what the boss can do. No simulations needed.
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