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911medic · 08-05-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FLGator75

What is the 1\4 time of a 2013 2LT/RS?

It's in the first post in this thread. Per Chevy, it's either 14.4 sec (auto) or 14.3 sec (manual).

Jason@JacFab · 08-05-2013, 10:36 PM

Wow, just went out and took a look at my lower grille. It's the same as the pics (the closed off one)... Now wondering if the 1LS grille is the same myself, as it might make sense that they wanted to keep the engine hotter for emissions/fuel economy reasons on the 2LS?

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Never thought they would have changed that from LT to LS... Surely there must be a "reason"?

911medic · 08-06-2013, 07:28 AM

Do you think it's to adjust the under hood temp, or for aerodynamic reasons?

Hopefully someone with a 1LS will chime in and let us know if that lower grille is open or closed. If I had to guess, I'd say the 2LS is the only one with the modified grille. If the 1LS has it, then it would seem more like cosmetic product/trim level differentiation than a performance change.

LStick · 08-14-2013, 06:48 AM

Finally took the time to throw the car into "M" and run the car in "Tapshift" mode.

Car runs all 6 gears up and down in that mode.

911medic · 08-14-2013, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LStick

Finally took the time to throw the car into "M" and run the car in "Tapshift" mode.

Car runs all 6 gears up and down in that mode.

I'm confused by what you're saying. Are you saying tapshift works in your 2LS like in the LTs?
When you shift to M, what gear does it default to (may depend on the speed your at at the time)?
If you shift to M at a relatively low speed, and hit the plus paddle to increase the gearing level to 6, does the car upshift with each paddle press, or does it upshift as your speed increases?
What does the DIC show as you hit the plus paddle?

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to understand.

LStick · 08-14-2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 911medic

I'm confused by what you're saying. Are you saying tapshift works in your 2LS like in the LTs?
When you shift to M, what gear does it default to (may depend on the speed your at at the time)?
If you shift to M at a relatively low speed, and hit the plus paddle to increase the gearing level to 6, does the car upshift with each paddle press, or does it upshift as your speed increases?
What does the DIC show as you hit the plus paddle?

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to understand.

No problems with the questions- I bought this thing, and wanted to understand what I was getting for my hard earned buck.

When shifting to M at a stop....I got a 1 on the DIC, which I confirmed by running that out for a short bit....then up paddle press...to 2-3-4-5-and finally 6. I could feel each shift. I then did the reverse....neg paddle press......and again.....could feel each different gear pull in. Each time I made a change.....the display on the DIC changed to indicate what gear I was in. Simple.

I have no grand plan to do this on a regular basis, but just wanted to confirm on a 2013 2LS, as an owner, that it does indeed "tapshift".

Angrybird 12 · 08-14-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LStick

No problems with the questions- I bought this thing, and wanted to understand what I was getting for my hard earned buck.

When shifting to M at a stop....I got a 1 on the DIC, which I confirmed by running that out for a short bit....then up paddle press...to 2-3-4-5-and finally 6. I could feel each shift. I then did the reverse....neg paddle press......and again.....could feel each different gear pull in. Each time I made a change.....the display on the DIC changed to indicate what gear I was in. Simple.

I have no grand plan to do this on a regular basis, but just wanted to confirm on a 2013 2LS, as an owner, that it does indeed "tapshift".

You were probably at the shift point when shifting up, and it should shift down as long as you are not going to put it over the rev limit by shifting. To know for sure if yours is like the LT's, while sitting still tap the up shift paddle and see if the numbers go up (2,3,4,etc), if they do then all you are selecting is the top gear it will shift to automatically. If it does select other gears other than 2nd, put it in 4th and drive, it should shift normally until you get to 4th gear then not shift again until you press the upshifting paddle..

SgtPickles69 · 08-14-2013, 09:58 AM

Love my 2LS

911medic · 08-14-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

You were probably at the shift point when shifting up, and it should shift down as long as you are not going to put it over the rev limit by shifting. To know for sure if yours is like the LT's, while sitting still tap the up shift paddle and see if the numbers go up (2,3,4,etc), if they do then all you are selecting is the top gear it will shift to automatically. If it does select other gears other than 2nd, put it in 4th and drive, it should shift normally until you get to 4th gear then not shift again until you press the upshifting paddle..

I wonder if this is what is happening, but need further clarification.

ERS can mimic TapShift, depending on how/when you use the paddles.

911medic · 08-14-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SgtPickles69

Love my 2LS

Jason@JacFab · 08-15-2013, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

You were probably at the shift point when shifting up, and it should shift down as long as you are not going to put it over the rev limit by shifting. To know for sure if yours is like the LT's, while sitting still tap the up shift paddle and see if the numbers go up (2,3,4,etc), if they do then all you are selecting is the top gear it will shift to automatically. If it does select other gears other than 2nd, put it in 4th and drive, it should shift normally until you get to 4th gear then not shift again until you press the upshifting paddle..

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Originally Posted by 911medic

I wonder if this is what is happening, but need further clarification.

ERS can mimic TapShift, depending on how/when you use the paddles.

+1

Although mostly useless, I have found a couple situations that it can be fun in even though it's not really "TapShift"...

2fullgarage · 08-15-2013, 08:34 AM

All you are doing is setting the max gear that the car will automatically shift to, yes this allows you a little fun holding a gear or downshifting.

But Let's be ABSOLUTELY clear folks.......

At a stop light, you could shift the 2LS to "M", click the + paddle until it says 6 and drive all day just like you were in "D"

maxcamaro · 08-15-2013, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 911medic

It's not just the 2LS that has a different differential housing and no LSD. That's true for all V6 autos, unfortunately. That's why I didn't include that in my post, as I'm addressing 2LS specific differences only.

Same for the limited gear options. You have to swap axles and part of the drive shaft, etc., just to swap a V8 differential into any V6 auto. The V6 manuals have the same housing as the SS, so things are easier (and they have LSD).

I bought my 2013 2LS a few months ago. Is there any way I can get the original 6.0 second 0-60 time just by taking it to a dyno and freeing up the remaining HP? I know they don't make tuners for the V6 models.

Jason@JacFab · 08-15-2013, 09:09 PM

Not that it matters too much, but my local dealer just got in a 2014 1LS and 2LS... The lower grilles are the same. I see no difference in the appearance in the cars except the MPG rating on the window sticker, so I'm thinking the 2.92 rear end gear has carried over from the 2012-2013 cars.

08-06-2013, 07:28 AM	#45
911medic Drives: 2012 SIM 2LT/1970 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Near Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,578	Do you think it's to adjust the under hood temp, or for aerodynamic reasons? Hopefully someone with a 1LS will chime in and let us know if that lower grille is open or closed. If I had to guess, I'd say the 2LS is the only one with the modified grille. If the 1LS has it, then it would seem more like cosmetic product/trim level differentiation than a performance change. __________________ All bleeding stops eventually -- 2012 2LT Auto w/sunroof -- My journal thread Roto-Fab Intake & W/W Relocate Kit -- ADM Race Scoop -- Dynomax VT Axle-Back Exhaust -- Vitesse Throttle Controller RX Catch Can -- Drake Bowtie Delete -- JacFab Radio Face Cover -- LED Fog Lights -- LED Dome/Trunk/Plate Lights -- Gen5DIY Dash ABL -- Diode Dynamics Cupholder Lighting Wishlist: ACS T5 Splitter -- Hood Vent Mod -- Footwell/Door Pull/Homelink Button Lighting

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08-15-2013, 08:34 AM	#54
2fullgarage Mid-Florida Camaro Club Drives: 2018 SS Vert Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Deltona Florida Posts: 267 View My Garage	All you are doing is setting the max gear that the car will automatically shift to, yes this allows you a little fun holding a gear or downshifting. But Let's be ABSOLUTELY clear folks....... At a stop light, you could shift the 2LS to "M", click the + paddle until it says 6 and drive all day just like you were in "D" __________________ 2018 SS VERT..Kooks, ZL1 sides, American Authority front splitter/rear shark fin diffuser 50th grill, Texas Speed, K&n, etc, lol

08-05-2013, 10:36 PM	#44
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,688 View My Garage	Wow, just went out and took a look at my lower grille. It's the same as the pics (the closed off one)... Now wondering if the 1LS grille is the same myself, as it might make sense that they wanted to keep the engine hotter for emissions/fuel economy reasons on the 2LS? ... Never thought they would have changed that from LT to LS... Surely there must be a "reason"?

08-14-2013, 06:48 AM	#46
LStick Drives: 2021 Shadow Gray 1LS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Streetsboro Ohio Posts: 1,371	Finally took the time to throw the car into "M" and run the car in "Tapshift" mode. Car runs all 6 gears up and down in that mode.

08-15-2013, 09:09 PM	#56
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,688 View My Garage	Not that it matters too much, but my local dealer just got in a 2014 1LS and 2LS... The lower grilles are the same. I see no difference in the appearance in the cars except the MPG rating on the window sticker, so I'm thinking the 2.92 rear end gear has carried over from the 2012-2013 cars.