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CamaroDreams07 · 11-17-2011, 08:44 PM

Ok, calling out to all vendors here..

I currently have the Eibach sway bars on my car. These things squeak like a b**** and I can't take it anymore. The only thing that makes it better is lubing their bushings, and that only works for about a week.

I need something else. What are some reasonably priced, QUIET, alternatives? Of course there are Pfadt, Pedders, Hotchkis...but I don't have a lot to spend so where are the best prices?

Thanks,
Matt

Camaro427 · 11-17-2011, 08:49 PM

The challenge with dealing with all the sway bars out there is the ability to actually compare data. Size is not necessarily an indication of strength. Solid bars are much stronger than hollow bars, but weigh more. You will have a challenge getting this data.

axis · 11-18-2011, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro427

The challenge with dealing with all the sway bars out there is the ability to actually compare data. Size is not necessarily an indication of strength. Solid bars are much stronger than hollow bars, but weigh more. You will have a challenge getting this data.

How does this relate to the OP's question?

You'll get a million suggestions and mine is just one of them. I have the Pfadt sways and haven't heard them squeak once since the install a year or so ago. I haven't had to regrease them or anything. I may just be one of the lucky ones but that's my experience.

BMR Sales · 11-18-2011, 09:09 AM

We could definitely help get you set of sway bars without breaking your budget, shoot me an e-mail or give me a call at the shop and I am sure we can get you a set within your budget.

emsguy · 11-18-2011, 09:12 AM

are you using the stock sway bar end links? maybe that's the source of the noise. I have Pfadt sway bars and their end links. absolutley no noise. before you scrap the sway bars, you might try aftermarket sway bar end links. just a thought. good luck.

fldrummer · 11-18-2011, 12:37 PM

I got a good deal on my LSR sway bars. I still have stock end links on them and don't have any noise/squeak issues.

PfadtRacing · 11-18-2011, 12:41 PM

If you're looking at replacing your sway bars ours have an excellent track record for quiet operation. All of our sway bar bushings are graphite impregnated polyurethane which coupled with the supplied high quality marine grade grease have proven themselves to be extremely quiet. The road conditions in Michigan may require more periodic maintenance than in other areas of the country due to salt and snow, but our customers here in Salt Lake City are extremely happy with the quiet performance of their sway bar systems.

As far as rates go, we do not publish or attempt to speculate our rates versus the rates of another manufacturer. What we do publish are direct comparisons of our sway bar stiffnesses to the OEM bars. FE3 being the V6 and FE4 being the 2010/2011 V8. You can see our rates here:

FRONT:

REAR:

What you see there are relative stiffness for all of our sway bar products, including each position on the adjustable bars. You'll notice that we dial in quite a bit more rear roll stiffness in the rear in comparison to the front, because the Camaro by design from the factory is pretty Front bar heavy... that's a major contributing factor to the understeer present in the stock suspension. We don't have this information to compare to Eibach, but if you remember how the car felt stock that's a great baseline.

VR Baron · 11-18-2011, 02:25 PM

Matt

I had Hotchkis on my 2LT a year and no squeeks. Never had to lube them either. Cornered flat as heck to.

So Cal Camaro · 11-18-2011, 03:32 PM

I have Eibach Springs/Sways for a couple of years and never had an issue with squeeking, brakes yes, sway bars no....

JamesNoBrakes · 11-18-2011, 07:47 PM

New anti-sway bars because your bushings might be noisy? Seriously? I'd get someone elses 29mm bushings first at least. Just got the eibachs a few days ago, no squeaks, but if there were there are also lots of solutions that can be tried, waxes, lubes, roughen surface, etc. These vendors are lining up like wolves...

JDP Motorsports · 11-18-2011, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroDreams07

Ok, calling out to all vendors here..

I currently have the Eibach sway bars on my car. These things squeak like a b**** and I can't take it anymore. The only thing that makes it better is lubing their bushings, and that only works for about a week.

I need something else. What are some reasonably priced, QUIET, alternatives? Of course there are Pfadt, Pedders, Hotchkis...but I don't have a lot to spend so where are the best prices?

Thanks,
Matt

Hi Matt,

When you re-lube your bushings what grease are you using? It is important to use specific grease as standard moly grease isn't going to stay in place for a very long time. We offer 14 oz. tubes of grease but I also have some small 3 oz. tubes here. PM me your address and I'll send some out to you to try. I'm positive with the bushings greased properly you shouldn't have any issues.

If you feel like spending money give me a call or shoot me a PM. We have excellent prices on BMR, Hotchkis and Pfadt products as well. Good luck and please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

Revo1 · 11-18-2011, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro427

The challenge with dealing with all the sway bars out there is the ability to actually compare data. Size is not necessarily an indication of strength. Solid bars are much stronger than hollow bars, but weigh more. You will have a challenge getting this data.

Some people only read the title.

CamaroDreams07 · 11-21-2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turd Ferguson

New anti-sway bars because your bushings might be noisy? Seriously? I'd get someone elses 29mm bushings first at least. Just got the eibachs a few days ago, no squeaks, but if there were there are also lots of solutions that can be tried, waxes, lubes, roughen surface, etc. These vendors are lining up like wolves...

I didn't know that other bushings would be compatible. I'm pretty novice at this stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDP Motorsports

Hi Matt,

When you re-lube your bushings what grease are you using? It is important to use specific grease as standard moly grease isn't going to stay in place for a very long time. We offer 14 oz. tubes of grease but I also have some small 3 oz. tubes here. PM me your address and I'll send some out to you to try. I'm positive with the bushings greased properly you shouldn't have any issues.

If you feel like spending money give me a call or shoot me a PM. We have excellent prices on BMR, Hotchkis and Pfadt products as well. Good luck and please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

Unfortunately, my apartment complex doesn't let me work on my car, so I have been just asking the dealership to grease them when they are doing my oil change. I really don't know what grease they use.

Are there any which DON'T require greasing? It's just one less step to worry about.

PfadtRacing · 11-21-2011, 11:59 AM

By it's nature polyurethane will squeak when not properly lubricated. There are construction measures you can take to minimize the squeak when not properly lubricated, like our graphite impregnation, but ultimately it's a material that needs proper attention paid to it.

If you're looking to keep the bars you have on the car we would suggest trying to track down the same lube that we package with all of our kits. It's super tacky and resists break down due to water and road grime. You might be able to find it locally from an Energy Suspension dealer, it's the Energy Suspension Formula #5. It will require you to remove the bar from the car for proper application though. If you can get your hands on the proper grease the next time you head to the dealership tell the tech to use the grease you bought him instead of the grease they may be using.

11-17-2011, 08:44 PM	#1
CamaroDreams07 Drives: Slow V6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: East Lansing, MI Posts: 9,361 View My Garage	Replacement Sway Bars Ok, calling out to all vendors here.. I currently have the Eibach sway bars on my car. These things squeak like a b**** and I can't take it anymore. The only thing that makes it better is lubing their bushings, and that only works for about a week. I need something else. What are some reasonably priced, QUIET, alternatives? Of course there are Pfadt, Pedders, Hotchkis...but I don't have a lot to spend so where are the best prices? Thanks, Matt __________________ [B]

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11-18-2011, 12:37 PM	#6
fldrummer "Black Ace" Drives: Supercharged 2010 SS, 2016 Golf R Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 1,352	I got a good deal on my LSR sway bars. I still have stock end links on them and don't have any noise/squeak issues. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 "Black Ace" - Delivered 6/4/2009 Mods: Forged 416 LS3, Maggie TVS 2300 SC (~11 psi), custom cam (232/247, .630/.630, 118 LSA), 90-lb. injectors, ZL1 fuel pump & ADM controller, Alky Control meth kit, Monster LT1-SC twin-disk clutch, ZL1 drivetrain conversion w/ DSS 1000-HP axles & 1-pc. driveshaft, CAI Inc. intake w/ ADM scoop, XS Power full exhaust (1 7/8" LT headers with 3" off-road pipes), VMAX CNC-ported TB, LSR adjustable sway bars, LPE rear end-links, BMR 1" drop, BMR polyurethane bushings; UMI trailing arms & toe rods. Built & tuned by Kraftworks. 755 rwhp/708 rwtq

11-18-2011, 03:32 PM	#9
So Cal Camaro So Cal Race Team Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny So Cal Posts: 3,584	I have Eibach Springs/Sways for a couple of years and never had an issue with squeeking, brakes yes, sway bars no.... __________________

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11-17-2011, 08:49 PM	#2
Camaro427 Drives: 2010 SS2 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 76	The challenge with dealing with all the sway bars out there is the ability to actually compare data. Size is not necessarily an indication of strength. Solid bars are much stronger than hollow bars, but weigh more. You will have a challenge getting this data.

11-18-2011, 09:12 AM	#5
emsguy Drives: 2012 2ss convertible Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: illinois Posts: 303	are you using the stock sway bar end links? maybe that's the source of the noise. I have Pfadt sway bars and their end links. absolutley no noise. before you scrap the sway bars, you might try aftermarket sway bar end links. just a thought. good luck.

11-18-2011, 12:41 PM	#7
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	If you're looking at replacing your sway bars ours have an excellent track record for quiet operation. All of our sway bar bushings are graphite impregnated polyurethane which coupled with the supplied high quality marine grade grease have proven themselves to be extremely quiet. The road conditions in Michigan may require more periodic maintenance than in other areas of the country due to salt and snow, but our customers here in Salt Lake City are extremely happy with the quiet performance of their sway bar systems. As far as rates go, we do not publish or attempt to speculate our rates versus the rates of another manufacturer. What we do publish are direct comparisons of our sway bar stiffnesses to the OEM bars. FE3 being the V6 and FE4 being the 2010/2011 V8. You can see our rates here: FRONT: REAR: What you see there are relative stiffness for all of our sway bar products, including each position on the adjustable bars. You'll notice that we dial in quite a bit more rear roll stiffness in the rear in comparison to the front, because the Camaro by design from the factory is pretty Front bar heavy... that's a major contributing factor to the understeer present in the stock suspension. We don't have this information to compare to Eibach, but if you remember how the car felt stock that's a great baseline.

11-18-2011, 02:25 PM	#8
VR Baron SoCal Camaro5 Race Team Drives: 2021 Shadow Grey Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SO CAL Posts: 14,288	Matt I had Hotchkis on my 2LT a year and no squeeks. Never had to lube them either. Cornered flat as heck to.

11-18-2011, 07:47 PM	#10
JamesNoBrakes Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AK Posts: 2,301	New anti-sway bars because your bushings might be noisy? Seriously? I'd get someone elses 29mm bushings first at least. Just got the eibachs a few days ago, no squeaks, but if there were there are also lots of solutions that can be tried, waxes, lubes, roughen surface, etc. These vendors are lining up like wolves...

11-21-2011, 11:59 AM	#14
PfadtRacing Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2006 Z06 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 3,370	By it's nature polyurethane will squeak when not properly lubricated. There are construction measures you can take to minimize the squeak when not properly lubricated, like our graphite impregnation, but ultimately it's a material that needs proper attention paid to it. If you're looking to keep the bars you have on the car we would suggest trying to track down the same lube that we package with all of our kits. It's super tacky and resists break down due to water and road grime. You might be able to find it locally from an Energy Suspension dealer, it's the Energy Suspension Formula #5. It will require you to remove the bar from the car for proper application though. If you can get your hands on the proper grease the next time you head to the dealership tell the tech to use the grease you bought him instead of the grease they may be using.