The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Tactical Z]

Well, since its lighter...or does that even make a damn differance?

[Crowley]

I don't think the mustang will end up at 3300 lbs ... not if they want to keep it around the same price ... 400 hp will be nice in a little lighter car, but we also have to look at gearing etc .. I think it will be a better race for sure and it will be really interesting to see what they can do on the twisties with more power and the track pack suspension ..

Crowley

[Georgie]

Originally Posted by Zabo

Well, not so much. We have an '07 Edge that had to have it's ABS/Brakes gutted and rebuilt at 9K miles because it failed on the road. Talk about a check your pants moment. Warranty won that one. Heck, I only have one working lock on my 2001 Exploder, and it's the passenger side :/. Everything and it's mother rattles in that thing as well, and the sunroof shade broke off (wat, yes it did.. I shoved it back into it's slot and haven't used it since 72K - 95K now).

Not to mention the side windows leak and all manners of fixing the weather stripping hasn't done anything. Replacing the windows isn't even on the table, so it's a "just live with it" thing. Not like it'll bring in any trade value for the Camaro.

that sucks you guys have problems w/ fords. ive never had serious problems with my fords. i could go on and list the problems ive had w/ my GMs (warped brake rotors, LT1s eating oil... leaking oil, and all that s--t mentioned about rattling interiors and pieces breaking off??--GM has that too, MORE SO than my Fords!).

i mean come on. i've heard that found on road garbage all the time and it didn't add up when i actually compared them to other cars ive owned. ford trucks? there's a reason most municipalities and businesses use them and its not just because they fleet purchase--everything from the inside out is beefed up: frame, suspension, drivetrain... h--l you can push those trucks HARD and they still get the job done after 100K+. things still run after being abused at 200K+

for the most part theyre built well so don't expect another car company is going solve all problems cars have. the so called best of the best honda? those suckers have problems too, but they'll run to 200K, more than that, but they're going to have problems along the way (transmission rebuilds, power window failure and all that alledged "ford specific" rattling and creaks).

seriously, cars will have problems but this is especially true for year one or two of a new car, so if you don't like problems w/ your cars wait till year 3 or 4. first model year will have problems

[Zabo]

While I agree the driveline is good, the tranny may need some tweaking coming up. Oh, and have any of you ever had the cig lighter plug pop INTO the dash..IE pop out and fall behind? Yeah.. mine did that this morning when I broke hard at a stop sign. Random impeccable timing, right? I'll get pics, it's quite funny.

Also, warped brake rotors aren't just a Chevy thing. Ole Exploder had the fronts seize up. Guys couldn't even get 5 feet into reverse before they said 'f**k it' and put it on some sort of dolley lift contraption to get it in the door. :/ Needless to say we all went "huh" for 5 minutes while they pulled the front wheels off and..then I shat myself. My calipers had actually kinda welded onto the rotor due to the warping and accompanying wear on the calipers themselves. They couldn't even spin the wheel to figure a way to disengage the calipers.

So 1K later I had new rotors, calipers, and a few lines. Still needs shocks and springs replaced up there. So much for 'beating' on a Ford Truck. <_<

[DGthe3]

There is little significant difference between the reliability of a new Ford and a new Chevy. Most problems are bad luck instead of bad design, generally speaking. There are design flaws inherent to each companies engineering philosophy but mostly they cancel each other out when comparing one to another.

Now, back to the topic at hand . . .the magical Mustang for 2011.
If 3300 was a typo, what did you mean for a weight? And lets not forget that if the Mustang gets this engine and keeps its current weight, the 3:73 gears that will be offered in the Camaro will help even things out.

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

There is little significant difference between the reliability of a new Ford and a new Chevy. Most problems are bad luck instead of bad design, generally speaking. There are design flaws inherent to each companies engineering philosophy but mostly they cancel each other out when comparing one to another.

Now, back to the topic at hand . . .the magical Mustang for 2011.
If 3300 was a typo, what did you mean for a weight? And lets not forget that if the Mustang gets this engine and keeps its current weight, the 3:73 gears that will be offered in the Camaro will help even things out.

i highly doubt the 2011 mustang will weight 3300 its about 3500 now i dont see how they would lighten up 200lbs especially with a slightly bigger engine.

[CaptianSam]

Okay here's my arguement
Mustang stays its current weight camaro stays its current car
Camaro won performance by a small margin...
2011 comes mustang now has 5.0 liter motor...
Now what

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by CaptianSam

Okay here's my arguement
Mustang stays its current weight camaro stays its current car
Camaro won performance by a small margin...
2011 comes mustang now has 5.0 liter motor...
Now what

I will 'Believe it when i see it' that Ford can build a 3500lb car with 400/400.


If they could have, why wouldn't they have done that with the GT500?







Assuming they do come out with it, lets remember its Ford. So don't expect anything too amazing. It will likely out accelerate to 60 and through the 1/4 mile, but that's all the more reason for Chevy to start unleashing the real power of that big LS3.

However, (and this is why the Camaro will still win all the comparo's) life is not a drag strip. The Camaro will be a higher-quality more contemporary liveable car.


Ford's build quality wont go up with a bigger engine. If you managed to read the mustang vs. Camaro vs. Challenger comparison released yesterday, A big strike against the Ford was that it looked like it was built in a Chinese sweat shop by 12 year olds.

[Georgie]

thats bull dude, how livable is a claustrophobic interior made of bob the builder playset plastic?

haha give me a break already

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by Georgie

thats bull dude, how livable is a claustrophobic interior made of bob the builder playset plastic?

haha give me a break already

Idk, you drive a mustang, you tell me.

[Georgie]

oh come on you tool, that's exactly what they said about the camaro and it could barely win the comparisons, you think its going to keep winning comparisons when the 5.0 hits?

ha, you tell me!

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

I will 'Believe it when i see it' that Ford can build a 3500lb car with 400/400.


If they could have, why wouldn't they have done that with the GT500?







Assuming they do come out with it, lets remember its Ford. So don't expect anything too amazing. It will likely out accelerate to 60 and through the 1/4 mile, but that's all the more reason for Chevy to start unleashing the real power of that big LS3.

However, (and this is why the Camaro will still win all the comparo's) life is not a drag strip. The Camaro will be a higher-quality more contemporary liveable car.


Ford's build quality wont go up with a bigger engine. If you managed to read the mustang vs. Camaro vs. Challenger comparison released yesterday, A big strike against the Ford was that it looked like it was built in a Chinese sweat shop by 12 year olds.

your comments are ridiculously innaccurate... there is nothing wrong with the mustangs interior and the build quality is actually great... you should sit in one and then decide

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

I will 'Believe it when i see it' that Ford can build a 3500lb car with 400/400.


If they could have, why wouldn't they have done that with the GT500?







Assuming they do come out with it, lets remember its Ford. So don't expect anything too amazing. It will likely out accelerate to 60 and through the 1/4 mile, but that's all the more reason for Chevy to start unleashing the real power of that big LS3.

However, (and this is why the Camaro will still win all the comparo's) life is not a drag strip. The Camaro will be a higher-quality more contemporary liveable car.


Ford's build quality wont go up with a bigger engine. If you managed to read the mustang vs. Camaro vs. Challenger comparison released yesterday, A big strike against the Ford was that it looked like it was built in a Chinese sweat shop by 12 year olds.

Let's not forget the big motivator that buyers always worry will hurt them the most: price. With people thinking about money, even those who are getting new cars now are more careful than usual. Ford's decision to redesign, even if lazily, a car to look only slightly different is costly. Let's add that the new motor will cost money, and that a nicer interior, if ever implemented, will add to cost. For the money, the Camaro is the clearly better deal as no one can dispute that GM invested its very soul into the Camaro. In the end, someone has to pay for the new engine, better interior, and more advanced components. If you have a Mustang that costs only a little less than the Camaro with cheap parts, comparatively poor performance, and an inferior suspension, price will no longer be in Ford's favor.

[Georgie]

oh but he has, its garbage lol! duh, even when glaring facts are there fanboys ignore them