04-04-2011, 12:21 PM | #99 | |
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Yes a heavy car can handle BUT it is much better to do it with a lighter car. Besides loosing weight makes the need for bigger brakes a nonissue, less spring rate and smaller swatbars which keep the weight in check. Heavier performance cars get bigger heavier brakes (unsprung weight a big bad), bigger swaybars and needed even bigger heavier engine to run just as good, this puts more stress on the car itself. Basicly taking a 4000 Z28 and try to run with a 3600 Boss Mustang will require much more to get it done. Adding weighty parts to make a heavy car work is like screwing for virginity. Light weight is a win win win over a heavy a$$ "performance" car. |
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04-04-2011, 03:03 PM | #100 |
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Yes I understand however the car exist as is. So you work with what you given. I believe that 3,800'lbs is doable. Then add all the toys.
Btw cars are gonna stay heavy since the government continues to add to the bulk. And then they want better gas mileage on top of it. |
04-04-2011, 04:45 PM | #101 |
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John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr:
Ironhead... We continue to work on evolving Camaro. Regarding Z28, all I can say is stay tuned... [Comment From KentWatkins KentWatkins: ] No comment on the Z28 then? The Z28 was brought out to battle the Boss Mustang back in the Trans Am days. John Fitz - Camaro Marketing Mgr: KentWatkins.. I think it is very interesting to note that history of the Z28 and its comparison to Boss 302... Oh Yeah! There's gonna be a Z28!!!!!! |
04-04-2011, 04:56 PM | #102 | |
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04-04-2011, 04:58 PM | #103 | |
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04-04-2011, 05:35 PM | #104 |
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Why can't it happen? I am not saying lose 400 lbs (that would be a huge undertaking costing big bucks) but how about 200 to 300 lbs with lossing the heavy a$$ bling wheels (18" rims will fit with the Brembos). If you dump the heavy wheels then the brakes will work even better, making the heavier 6 piston Brembos not needed (would make the Z28 cheaper too). Suddenly the need for much heavier suspension is gone too. Throw in Recaros (or like) seats to knock weight and improved holding, rear seat delete, some sound deadening removed, and minimal added bracing (don't need as much when you lose weight). I am not even saying things like carbon fiber fenders, doors,and hood. Those pieces will reduce a small amount while making the car very expensive. Decontent the Camaro a bit (let people put the option back on if they want them) no nav, sounds system minimized, no heated power seat tracks, manual mirrors without auto dimming....see where I am going? Now instead of a 4000 lbs Camaro, you have a 3750-3800lbs Z28 with added HP/TQ in the LS3, throw in 3.73 and you have a Camaro that will make the Boss Mustang work for it. So yes it can and should be done!
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04-04-2011, 06:40 PM | #105 | |
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04-04-2011, 07:33 PM | #106 |
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More than half the cars on this site would smoke the BOSS and the ZL1/Z28............
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04-05-2011, 10:09 AM | #107 | |
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On another note, some of us "enthusiast" are petitioning Ford to start a Boss job #2 since all of those 2012 Boss Mustang's have been spoken for. The success of the Boss is only candy for GM. The Boss hype is probably really making them think about the Z28. |
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04-05-2011, 01:24 PM | #108 |
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It's all marketing!!!
Ok they'll make a little bit of $$$$ too. |
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04-05-2011, 10:47 PM | #110 |
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I already got a mustang killer... except for the supersnake. Sorry but I can't beat that! Cause every ss mustang i ran into was pullied and bolt ons. But when the bank rolls in Im gonna sell the 427 4th gen and get me a camaro with 1400+hp Its a nice thing stepping back a generation and then drop 427 in and running with todays current 60k cars and only doing it for 20k
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