08-01-2013, 12:24 PM | #1 |
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R-compound tires/wheels for HPDE track use
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I'm going to purchase an extra set of wheels and R-compound tires, specifically for track days. I'll keep the stock wheels and Goodyears for street use. It's a hard decision on what to go with, but this is what I'm thinking: 285/35-20 Toyo Proxes R888s front and rear Factory 1LE/ZL1 forged black OEM wheels (not reproductions) Here's my criteria:
Regarding wheels, I love the stock forged black 1LE wheels. Mean looking, nice and light. Plus, I like the fact that if I ever curb a wheel (god forbid!), I can use my scratched wheel with my track tires, and keep my street wheels/tires looking pristine. I'm hoping to find some take-off wheels slightly used and in perfect condition. What do you think? Any other suggestions are appreciated!
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08-02-2013, 07:47 AM | #2 |
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19x10.0 wheels all around, and Hooser R6 295/35-19 DOT radial tires.
I know a few guys that drive around on the softer A6 tires, using them sort of like drag radials. The R6 lasts longer, just needs a warm-up lap to get them track sticky. Here is a customer car using 295 front tires, 19x10 front wheels, negative camber. Pfadt coil-overs. Rears are 305 on 19x11. Bridgestone Potenza
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08-02-2013, 09:45 AM | #3 |
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Thanks Tony. Good looking set up. I like that as a 19" option, but am concerned about the effect of the smaller diameter on stability control.
I'm leaning hard towards your original suggestion of 285/35-20 R888s, and there's something cool about keeping it stock looking. So I am beginning to look around for a set of 1LE/ZL1 black take-off wheels in like-new condition.
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i ran 18s in a 30 tall sidewall tire and it had zero affects to stabilitrak.
lots of r compounds out there the triple 8s are popular. Mr Pete at pedders likes the potenzas i think. my go to guys for track equipment advice at CMS suggested nt01 from nitto and r888 from toyo. those tires would keep you street legal tho they wont work well in rain or even slightly cold. They also want to see me on 19s in a hoosier slick which will happen for next year. if you are going for a track wheel and tire why not go lightweight wheels and slicks? i did the same thing you do with the travel...went 18s with falkens comp tire...good tire but wish i would have gone slicks edited to say didnt see Mr Tony's response. If he suggests something its legit
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And thanks for the heads up on the Nitto NT01s. I see they're also now available in 285/35-20. It's a shame Tire Rack doesn't carry them, because I like Tire Rack's heat cycling service.
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08-05-2013, 12:42 PM | #7 |
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Since you prefer to drive to the track, how about something like this?
http://www.brazeauracing.com/tiretrailer.htm http://home.mindspring.com/~tkehne/id20.html Tony
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I'm thinking hard again about the 305/30-19s R888s on Z/28 sized wheels, 19x11 front and 19x11.5 rear. Since Stabitrak will work fine with smaller but equal diameters, it's back on the table for consideration. Also need to be sure they won't rub if I install Pedders springs in the future. Will the 305s give significant grip over the 285/35-20 R888s on stock 1LE weheels? The tread of the 285s are 10.8" wide, and the 305s are 11.5" wide. That's a 6.5% increase, but appearantly that's significant or the Z/28 wouldn't be sporting them. Since I'm buying these tires/wheels solely for the track, I want to do it right. Thanks for any insights. Todd
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08-06-2013, 07:48 AM | #9 |
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Springs don't affect tire clearance. The tires ride beneath the lower spring perch. Changing out coil-overs affects the tire clearance. Some have less tire clearance than the stock strut, others have more tire clearance.
305 wide all around would be a great track combo, maybe those '14 Z28 fender flares will become available on the aftermarket to keep them from poking out so far. Here is a photo of how the front tire sits relative to the factory strut. The spring is always above the tire.
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Thanks Tony. I read on Pedders website some good details. They're running 305/30-19 on 19 x 10.5 wheels in the front. I know they're running the same tire in the rear, not sure about the wheels. I'll get in touch with them and see if I can figure out what will fit for sure, and I may just lower it now as well. I may be back in touch with you to look at Forgestars or Forgelines with R888s once I firm up my plan.
Any idea what the weight of a 19 x 10 or 19 x 11 is, Forgestar Vs. Forgline? Not much info on their websites.
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Forgestar weigh about the same as 3-piece forged wheels. 19s looking at mid-20 lbs ballpark.
Monoblock Forged (like Forgeline GA1R) are the lightest. Those 19s likely still in the high teens.
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Those GA1Rs look sick Tony, may get me a set next year when taxes come in .
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08-10-2013, 09:36 AM | #14 |
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I went low budget and picked up 4 stock rear 20" SS rims that had 285/35 R888s mounted. No clearance issues and i'm lowered. Huge difference over stock PZeros, but they take a while to warm up. Wish I had the dollars I would definitely go with 19" rims since there are a lot more tire choices. I need to buy tires soon and all I can find are the NT01s and the R888s.
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