e85 tune or go cammed.

savagecamaro · 11-18-2017, 03:07 AM

I just thought about this tonight. I'm scheduled to get a e85 flex fuel tune
at cunningham motorsports. I'm thinking instead of getting e85, I go with their custom camshaft. I don't have LT's yet but I do have a CAI and manifold. Thoughts and opinions are forever grateful. I am a noob and dont know too much when it comes to modding. sorry

Hulk · 11-18-2017, 07:37 AM

Buy once, tune once, and cry once. Took me a few years. Had my cat back on for a long time. Then finally acquired all the parts and cash. Headers, CIA, ported TB, rod mod intake, ported heads, cam, stall, and tune installed all at onece.

chozn4service · 11-18-2017, 10:18 AM

I would cam it. The headers will require a tune, as will a cam. CAI and TB do not. I’ve replaced my exhaust and if and when I do anything it’ll be headers but I the cam is in my future it’ll all be done at once and one tune and be done. Makes no sense to pay for multiple tunes within weeks or so in between.
I’m fifth gen was cammed and it sounded bad ass! Got so much attention at car shows, gas stations and stop light intersections.
I think the biggest fear on E85 is availability

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soloknight6 · 11-18-2017, 10:30 AM

CAM

marknagy13 · 11-18-2017, 10:57 AM

Why not both? A cam plus install will be like 3-4 times as much as e85, so I'm assuming it's not the cost you are worried about?

MSMYYC · 11-20-2017, 12:14 AM

I would do both if the budget allows. Remember, that e85 gain of approximately 30whp is stacked on top of the power gains of the cam. On their dyno, depending on your goals with your cam, you will be close to 480-500whp on their dyno with e85, N/A cam. (Stock manual cars baseline dyno 375-390whp, auto 365-380whp.

E85 is a no brainer if you have access. Even with a cam! Let us know how it pans out!

savagecamaro · 11-21-2017, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marknagy13

Why not both? A cam plus install will be like 3-4 times as much as e85, so I'm assuming it's not the cost you are worried about?

The tune for my CAI and manifold plus the e85 flex fuel kit will be $1100 from cunningham motorsports. Talk to them about their custom camshaft package plus install would be appox. $3800 A little outside my spending limit due to it being the holidays and having to buy presents and the girlfriend having a headache when I mention car parts. Will look into putting a cam before summer comes, maybe mid April. Will move on from performance to exterior mods this winter.

savagecamaro · 11-21-2017, 03:03 AM

I'm also looking to get my girlfriend to get me some Kooks LTH for christmas. Will be looking around for the best exhaust set up to go with my Borla ATAK catback system.

Bluecyclone · 11-21-2017, 03:47 AM

I'd cam as well, and it's in my later years of mods, I am 58 and doing suspension 1st for my GT. I need a rich girlfriend myself for headers!

jdasnt3 · 11-21-2017, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by savagecamaro

The tune for my CAI and manifold plus the e85 flex fuel kit will be $1100 from cunningham motorsports. Talk to them about their custom camshaft package plus install would be appox. $3800 A little outside my spending limit due to it being the holidays and having to buy presents and the girlfriend having a headache when I mention car parts. Will look into putting a cam before summer comes, maybe mid April. Will move on from performance to exterior mods this winter.

Were you comparing the two thinking that the cost would be the same to install each individually? Cam installs aren't easy on these LT1's when compared to the fifth gen L99 and LS3. I would do both since the car will need a tune with the cam. So if you added the flex fuel sensor to the cam package, the price won't be an additional $1100, maybe another $500 on top of the cam install.

KingLT1 · 11-21-2017, 10:15 AM

E85 is the best bang for buck on these cars. The cam chop will get fatiguing over time...I have had Heads/cam cars for the last 12yrs. My advice be to go mild on the cam and port the heads.

dennis@hixsonnet.com · 11-21-2017, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

I would get the cam. Few things on earth sound as nice as a cammed V8.

So true!!!

savagecamaro · 11-26-2017, 07:56 PM

I'd love to cam the car, dont get me wrong. but $3800 compared to $1100 isnt really working for me. I cant spend the extra $2700 for the cam package. I wish I could, but I cant.

JCunningham · 11-27-2017, 02:31 AM

cam +e85 and you will need new fuel system

11-18-2017, 03:07 AM	#1
savagecamaro Drives: 2017 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Central California Posts: 124	e85 tune or go cammed. I just thought about this tonight. I'm scheduled to get a e85 flex fuel tune at cunningham motorsports. I'm thinking instead of getting e85, I go with their custom camshaft. I don't have LT's yet but I do have a CAI and manifold. Thoughts and opinions are forever grateful. I am a noob and dont know too much when it comes to modding. sorry

11-18-2017, 07:37 AM	#2
Hulk Drives: 2011 Synenergy Green 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pueblo, Co Posts: 557	Buy once, tune once, and cry once. Took me a few years. Had my cat back on for a long time. Then finally acquired all the parts and cash. Headers, CIA, ported TB, rod mod intake, ported heads, cam, stall, and tune installed all at onece. __________________ 2011 Synenergy Green 2SS/RS Automatic.

11-18-2017, 10:18 AM	#3
chozn4service Drives: 2016 SS w/2SS A8 Blue Velvet Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 39.793153,-86.238223 Posts: 3,678 View My Garage	I would cam it. The headers will require a tune, as will a cam. CAI and TB do not. I’ve replaced my exhaust and if and when I do anything it’ll be headers but I the cam is in my future it’ll all be done at once and one tune and be done. Makes no sense to pay for multiple tunes within weeks or so in between. I’m fifth gen was cammed and it sounded bad ass! Got so much attention at car shows, gas stations and stop light intersections. I think the biggest fear on E85 is availability Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Never grow up, it's a trap!

11-18-2017, 10:30 AM	#4
soloknight6 SoCal HT5! SD Drives: 2016 red hot 2ss M6 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Diego CA, Posts: 1,929	CAM __________________ http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...37#post5437037 By my deeds, I honor him. V8!!!

11-18-2017, 10:57 AM	#5
marknagy13 Markoon13 Drives: Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: San Diego Posts: 853	Why not both? A cam plus install will be like 3-4 times as much as e85, so I'm assuming it's not the cost you are worried about? __________________ Making Camaro Videos Great Again! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWS...TrnPTnKAfJgouQ

11-20-2017, 12:14 AM	#6
MSMYYC @maplefed Drives: 16' MBM 2SS, Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: So-Cal Posts: 116	I would do both if the budget allows. Remember, that e85 gain of approximately 30whp is stacked on top of the power gains of the cam. On their dyno, depending on your goals with your cam, you will be close to 480-500whp on their dyno with e85, N/A cam. (Stock manual cars baseline dyno 375-390whp, auto 365-380whp. E85 is a no brainer if you have access. Even with a cam! Let us know how it pans out! __________________ @maplefed

11-21-2017, 03:03 AM	#8
savagecamaro Drives: 2017 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Central California Posts: 124	I'm also looking to get my girlfriend to get me some Kooks LTH for christmas. Will be looking around for the best exhaust set up to go with my Borla ATAK catback system.

11-21-2017, 03:47 AM	#9
Bluecyclone Drives: 2014 Cyclone mustang Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Port Lavaca,Tx. Posts: 355 View My Garage	I'd cam as well, and it's in my later years of mods, I am 58 and doing suspension 1st for my GT. I need a rich girlfriend myself for headers! __________________ 2014 Cyclone/Select Shift/"/Sold 2016 ruby red GT w/3.55:1/resonator delete X- pipe/UPR catch can/Airaid "tube"W/AEM/J&M/BigWorm/BMR /SVE /ZL1addons/Redline/Steeda/BG fluids/

11-21-2017, 10:15 AM	#11
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,799	E85 is the best bang for buck on these cars. The cam chop will get fatiguing over time...I have had Heads/cam cars for the last 12yrs. My advice be to go mild on the cam and port the heads. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

11-26-2017, 07:56 PM	#13
savagecamaro Drives: 2017 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Central California Posts: 124	I'd love to cam the car, dont get me wrong. but $3800 compared to $1100 isnt really working for me. I cant spend the extra $2700 for the cam package. I wish I could, but I cant.

11-27-2017, 02:31 AM	#14
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	cam +e85 and you will need new fuel system __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

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