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Old 11-28-2017, 07:31 AM   #1
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Engine performance in different modes

Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but is there any different engine, throttle response in different driving modes? (Touring, Sport, Track, etc)
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Old 11-28-2017, 08:07 AM   #2
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Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but is there any different engine, throttle response in different driving modes? (Touring, Sport, Track, etc)
Yes, Tour & Sport have one setting they call "normal", then two unique setting for weather and track. Owners manual shows in table on page 239 of my copy.
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Old 11-28-2017, 08:46 AM   #3
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Yes, Tour & Sport have one setting they call "normal", then two unique setting for weather and track. Owners manual shows in table on page 239 of my copy.
What is the difference in functionality between the "normal" setting and weather and track? Does one open the throttle more slowly? Can you explain?

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Old 11-28-2017, 10:57 AM   #4
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Tour and Sport actually let the throttle go to 100% (In the computer) faster I believe, whereas Track mode dulls down throttle response to avoid spinning when exiting corners, I'm assuming the Weather mode has the same thing as Track. Sport PTM + Tour suspension is the combo to be running for digs/rolls.
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Old 11-28-2017, 01:13 PM   #5
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What is the difference in functionality between the "normal" setting and weather and track? Does one open the throttle more slowly? Can you explain?

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I see no throttle response difference in Sport 1, Sport 2, or Race mode which are part of the "Track" setting. Obviously, this is traction dependent and in Wet mode it is very intrusive. HP is not impacted by the switch between modes. Sport 1 uses all available 650hp just as Race mode. In modes that are not PTM, Sport & Touring have the same throttle feeling to me. Honestly, I have never tried the snow and ice mode. In Sport and Track in an A10 the car can enter a performance shift algorithm that is not available in Tour.
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Old 11-29-2017, 01:23 PM   #6
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I see no throttle response difference in Sport 1, Sport 2, or Race mode which are part of the "Track" setting. Obviously, this is traction dependent and in Wet mode it is very intrusive. HP is not impacted by the switch between modes. Sport 1 uses all available 650hp just as Race mode. In modes that are not PTM, Sport & Touring have the same throttle feeling to me. Honestly, I have never tried the snow and ice mode. In Sport and Track in an A10 the car can enter a performance shift algorithm that is not available in Tour.
I have definitely noticed the difference between Sport 1, 2 and Race. You really have to be pushing the car but there is a very noticeable lag of throttle response in Sport 1 and Sport 2 especially coming out of a turn versus Race or Everything Full off. You won't notice any of this unless you are on the hairy edge... say in tight turns in an Autocross environment.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:05 AM   #7
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Lets say you are WOT at 120MPH....Looking for which mode to breathe easiest...
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I have definitely noticed the difference between Sport 1, 2 and Race. You really have to be pushing the car but there is a very noticeable lag of throttle response in Sport 1 and Sport 2 especially coming out of a turn versus Race or Everything Full off. You won't notice any of this unless you are on the hairy edge... say in tight turns in an Autocross environment.
I suppose I need to pay more attention "on track". The overall HP seems unchanged between modes.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:56 PM   #9
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Lets say you are WOT at 120MPH....Looking for which mode to breathe easiest...
The drive modes really just affect throttle calibration, assuming you have the suspension, steering, and exhaust settings locked down individually. Traction and stability control are fully on in any of the modes unless you manually turn off TC, enter Competitive Mode, or PTM.

The PTM modes available in track mode are a different story. Those can affect how the car puts power down and whether or not stability control steps in if need be.

As far as “breathing easy” at high speeds, you’re best leaving full traction/stability control on. I don’t see the drive mode mattering all that much.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:36 PM   #10
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Competition mode has 100% of throttle available at all times.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:05 PM   #11
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In a stock ZL1, meaning it hasn’t been “tuned”, Torque Mgt is always there. No matter if you turn it all off. At least that’s what several of us M6 owners have come to realize in testing on the drag strips.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:18 PM   #12
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Nope none go to 100 percent tm won’t let it get there. 40 percent is what I see on a good day after it went near 80 then fell. On hot days I see 60-80 most of the time but a cooler day 40 percent is norm on say a 11.37@126 run in 78 degrees. Look at the tps on the log shot it’s at 39 percent when commanding 100 as hitting the calculated torque limit in the tune at tht small of throttle percent. When I log this on my tunes vsport it shows 84 percent which is 100 on a GM in tune. Vsport before tune was 68 percent most of the time. I ran 3 modes at track and all 3 did 39 percent throttle tour sport or track didn’t matter.
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Competition mode has 100% of throttle available at all times.
I find it comical that IMMEDIATELY after a member posts actual data logs of the computer closing the throttle when the car is floored.....another member pipes up talking out of his ass about 100% throttle being available. Like, do they even think that just MAYBE another member has provided an answer based on facts???? Like, maybe one single post above theirs? lol
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:39 PM   #13
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I find it comical that IMMEDIATELY after a member posts actual data logs of the computer closing the throttle when the car is floored.....another member pipes up talking out of his ass about 100% throttle being available. Like, do they even think that just MAYBE another member has provided an answer based on facts???? Like, maybe one single post above theirs? lol
I find it comical that IMMEDIATELY after a member posts a response to another post, that points out a possible shortcoming in the data that he collected, due to the fact that in that post he only states that he switched between tour, sport and track..where COMPETITION mode is seperate from those distinctions, and is a special mode that requires further input besides just switching to sport or track mode. Like, do they even think that MAYBE the experimental data that someone collected could possibly have had some shortcomings in the parameters that were tested???? Or do they just make a snarky post instead of considering any of those things? lol
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