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It's funny, this morning Bonnie said, "give me the key to the office cause I'll obviously beat you there". Hey, pharmd, did you test your car before the mods? I'd be curious what you started with. You may well have got even better times if your car started with our problem. |
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06-30-2009, 04:38 PM | #16 |
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My L99 feels like it was tuned by the Cadalic division
During the Q&A session at Carlisle, I praised the GM team for a job well done , and mentioning some of the things I really liked about the car, but then opened up into a question about my poor dyno run for my L99, and if I was seeing expected numbers or something outside the expected parameters. . Al came back and asked me what the numbers were (I did not initially mention the specifics as I did not want to seem bashing to an otherwise fine car in a public session) . I told them it was a conservative dyno (Superflow) but it only made 305 WRHP on its best pull. http://http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpost.php?p=613731&postcount=14 They did not have a lot of suggestions, and I did not want to back them into a corner, so I just praised the car and moved on. At least they were all there to hear my concern (Scott Settlemire, Cheryl Pilcher, John Fitzpatrick, Al Oppenheiser and John Cox ) as well as hundreds of others. Later (after the public session) I showed AL my dyno sheet. I mentioned that my dyno operator had run a LS3 car a few days before mine and had said the timing curve on the L99 was more conservative than the LS3. Al appeared to concur that the setting were less aggressive on the L99. Al did say that he attends a teleconference each week with the dealers where issues are brought up that seem to be occurring regularly. He suggested I have my dealer look at it, and that if they have concerns that they bring it up during the call. (He also suggested I run in sport mode more, and although it des not seem to help in Engine performance, transmission shifting is somewhat better) I plan to take the car to the dealer and mention they look at this avenue. Scott what was your dealer specifically going to try and do? I spoke to Al a bit about the limitations of the DOD, but there was a lot going on around us and we did not have the time to get into detail about it. I did get the impression that some of the tuning is there to help with the reliability of the AFM (DOD). I wish I had had a chance to explore that subject in greater detail, as well as Torque Management. Al said there is always the chance of updates to the computer tune, and that the performance parts group would likely offer performance tunes (I hope to hear more about that). I hope to get mine to the track with 2 other guys (another L99, and an LS3). And hopefully run them all together and have some more data to compare. The pic is with Al and myself... real smart guy!. (note rolled up dyno print outs in my hand). BTW - He brought his teenage son, boy, thats one lucky kid.
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In a race between Patrick, IRPQ Scott, and a turtle, who do you think would win? That would be a fun race to watch..
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06-30-2009, 04:52 PM | #18 |
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It sounds like things are slowly getting to the people who can make some decisions.
The news of performance tunes for the L99's also sounds promissing. I've never heard of GM offering anything like that for the LS1's, LS2's or current LS3's. Maybe they already know something and they're making plans on correcting it? (99 Cobra comes to mind). |
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#230 came to a stop and a box turtle pulled and scratched its claws. #230 turned around a drove away with her head hanging low in shame.
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06-30-2009, 05:32 PM | #20 |
I haz camaro again :)
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what kind of car is she in?? that appears to be one of the newer model lexus' in your sig, and if it is i beat one in my truck(it was a friends car) to about 85 and they got side by side and couldn't pass me. my truck is no speed demon, so something must be up man.
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06-30-2009, 05:34 PM | #21 |
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They come with two engines (204hp and 306hp - 09 models). You probably raced the 204hp model in your truck. The 306hp Lexus IS is a quick car. But his Camaro SS shouldn't have much trouble beating it. |
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07-01-2009, 01:49 AM | #23 |
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all she told me was that it was a v6. lol. i know nothing about lexus, so idk, but EITHER WAY, like the man said your ss should walk her lexus.
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07-01-2009, 06:35 AM | #25 |
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That is called bait and switch... If the times were advertised as being slower than the V6 at 0-60, the auto SS would not sell.. Obviously they did no such thing, however it could be taken to court as such a case as the owner would have a compelling argument as to one of the main reasons to purchase the SS over the V6 Maro is because of the extra speed.. I don't understand what is taking GM so long to do something about this embarrassing situation. It's almost as bad as Obama taking a couple weeks to acknowledge the Iranian protesters existed. GM should learn from others mistakes..
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07-01-2009, 06:38 AM | #26 |
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wasnt this why all the quality checks and holds were done? they still can't get it together?
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317 rwhp/329rwtq (first pull), 321rwhp/332rwtq (2nd/final pull). When I used the correction factor for my DA, it suggested I would have run Altitude (in feet) Elapsed Time Factor MPH Factor 3000 .9640 1.0381 My corrected time...13.39/106.09 When I saw my times I was disappointed, I wanted a 13.6 @ 104-105, but considering the weather I didn't feel they were that far off, so when I calculated the correction times, I knew they were within reason of GM claims.
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You guys need to check your trap speeds...if other cars are trapping the same or more mph than yours, that is a pretty good indicator they are making as much or more power than you are, and suggests that if you were to get into a highway run, you'd get pulled at higher mph's. I certainly don't condone street/hwy racing, but lets be honest, we know it happens. Having said that 0-60, and 1/4 mile times even don't tell the whole story... I saw a thread on camaro vs challenger...some guys are getting the challenger into the low 13's @ like 104ish, most of the camaro auto's that are running low 13's/high 12's are trapping like 108 or something...you get these cars on the hwy and the camaro will put a beating on the challenger the higher the speeds climb. A manual tranny car will make this even worse. Don't be so suprised if you are stock, to have cars that you wouldn't expect to keep up with you, hang in there. You guys that are having problems keep us updated, and GOOD LUCK!! I certainly hope the dealers are fair with you guys.
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