Star Trek fans only please.

[TRooper]

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Its a new time line, that's why.

Think back to the future after Biff stole the time machine.

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by PQ

Kirk was a total stud. Riker was in the same mold. Janeway was a joke along with that Deep Space Nine dude. Picard grew on me and was a great character. I never watched Enterprise. I lost interest in it all years ago. But you can't deny the iconic nature of Star Trek. Cudos to Rodenbury or whatever his name is.

I just don't have the desire for another movie. I'm sure I'll watch it at some point just not look forward to it.

PQ, did you like the new movie?

[Dave McFly]

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Its a new time line, that's why.

Think back to the future after Biff stole the time machine.

Is that a riff on my user name ? just kidding, I'm still your friend .

[mastertypodemon]

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

I just happen to watch the latest movie last night and realized why they were in Iowa for Kirk to be so close to where they building those things, vast miles of un populated flat ground.

Dunno why it never clicked before.

Originally Posted by Dave McFly

as much as i loved the new movie the 'new' ship is SO big how the hell did they get it off of the planet's surface? also the 60s enterprise and the 'refit' in the move were only about 300 feet long end to end, and the Enterprise D was over 1000 feet long (you could place both the old enterprise within the diameter of the 'D' saucer section .

I've asked both of those questions many times and can never get a "suitable" or "reasonable" answer.

I did hear once, relating to the size of the new ship, that there was a scaling issue with the shuttle bay. JJ designed the shuttle scene separate of many other scenes, then someone noticed that the scale size didn't match the shuttle bay and the ship. So JJ merely double the stated size of the ship to 1000ft (or meters, whichever). Someone figured out that the bridge bubble is supposed to be just the bridge, but under the new dimensions, the bridge bubble is now 3 or 4 decks high.

[2ndgenz28]

Originally Posted by Dave McFly

Is that a riff on my user name ? just kidding, I'm still your friend .

Funny that I didn't even notice that.........

Hello; McFly

[2ndgenz28]

Originally Posted by mastertypodemon

I've asked both of those questions many times and can never get a "suitable" or "reasonable" answer.

I did hear once, relating to the size of the new ship, that there was a scaling issue with the shuttle bay. JJ designed the shuttle scene separate of many other scenes, then someone noticed that the scale size didn't match the shuttle bay and the ship. So JJ merely double the stated size of the ship to 1000ft (or meters, whichever). Someone figured out that the bridge bubble is supposed to be just the bridge, but under the new dimensions, the bridge bubble is now 3 or 4 decks high.

I didn't put that much thought into it, being a different time line, anything could change. Another time line the ship could be the size of a VW and people only inches high.

The time line change makes any and all changes without good reason, acceptable to me.

Like the Next Gen episode where they were 100s of Enterprise's and they had to get Warf back to his right ship. And they had to blow up and kill all those from the time line where the Borg ruled the galaxy.


Who knows, in this time line the Borg could be part of the peacful federation.
And the founders are used to fill baby rectal thermometers

And maybe Klingon's will go back to being white guys with beards

Anything is now possiable and acceptable in an alternate time line.

[Dave McFly]

I just remember from my Star Trek The Next Generation Technical Manual (yes, I have one, got it at a yard sale for a buck!) which has TONS of what makes the Enterprise D 'tick'. and in it they have the evolution of the different ships and they said that the TOS and movie ships were about 3-400 feet (but it could have been meters and they put feet instead by accident) and the Excelsior class 'B' was even bigger almost 1000 feet long, then the Ambassador class 'C' was the same size as the 'B', and the Galaxy class 'D' was the biggest at over 1100 feet. and in the pics you could see that the Kirk era ships could rest in the middle of the 'D' saucer. I am sure the '2009 movie' Enterprise is MUCH bigger scale, hell the 'engineering' section was filmed in a BREWERY, that's a lot of floor space .

Dave "proud of his dorky heritage!" McFly

[2ndgenz28]

Originally Posted by Dave McFly

I just remember from my Star Trek The Next Generation Technical Manual (yes, I have one, got it at a yard sale for a buck!) which has TONS of what makes the Enterprise D 'tick'. and in it they have the evolution of the different ships and they said that the TOS and movie ships were about 3-400 feet (but it could have been meters and they put feet instead by accident) and the Excelsior class 'B' was even bigger almost 1000 feet long, then the Ambassador class 'C' was the same size as the 'B', and the Galaxy class 'D' was the biggest at over 1100 feet. and in the pics you could see that the Kirk era ships could rest in the middle of the 'D' saucer. I am sure the '2009 movie' Enterprise is MUCH bigger scale, hell the 'engineering' section was filmed in a BREWERY, that's a lot of floor space .

Dave "proud of his dorky heritage!" McFly

Real dorks read the Star Trek paperback novels

[Steve Dallas]

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Real dorks read the Star Trek paperback novels

Real Geeks have read "How much for just the Planet", the best Star Trek book EVER!

[Dave McFly]

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Real dorks read the Star Trek paperback novels

i have read some of them, even the ones the Shat wrote .

[Tessa]

Originally Posted by Dave McFly

I just remember from my Star Trek The Next Generation Technical Manual (yes, I have one, got it at a yard sale for a buck!) which has TONS of what makes the Enterprise D 'tick'. and in it they have the evolution of the different ships and they said that the TOS and movie ships were about 3-400 feet (but it could have been meters and they put feet instead by accident) and the Excelsior class 'B' was even bigger almost 1000 feet long, then the Ambassador class 'C' was the same size as the 'B', and the Galaxy class 'D' was the biggest at over 1100 feet. and in the pics you could see that the Kirk era ships could rest in the middle of the 'D' saucer. I am sure the '2009 movie' Enterprise is MUCH bigger scale, hell the 'engineering' section was filmed in a BREWERY, that's a lot of floor space .

Dave "proud of his dorky heritage!" McFly

Too bad they didn't leave beer (or whatever they were brewing) in all those tubes!!

[2ndgenz28]

Originally Posted by Tessa

Too bad they didn't leave beer (or whatever they were brewing) in all those tubes!!

If ya watch the extra stuff all those clear tubes were CGI only 1 small section was real. The very first one.

All the pipes n giant tanks were full of beer n beer makin mix at Budwiser

Also that long hall way was at Bud's plant when they find Scotty......

[Tessa]

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

If ya watch the extra stuff all those clear tubes were CGI only 1 small section was real. The very first one.

All the pipes n giant tanks were full of beer n beer makin mix at Budwiser

Also that long hall way was at Bud's plant when they find Scotty......

Well that's no fun for Scotty if that tank was just "water" LOL!!!

I haven't watched the extras - I actually have it on blue-ray for the extras (YAY Trek Geek - my first and only blue-ray movie) but haven't watched...somedays I just want to pretend it's all real....

j/k LOL!!!

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

I didn't put that much thought into it, being a different time line, anything could change. Another time line the ship could be the size of a VW and people only inches high.

The time line change makes any and all changes without good reason, acceptable to me.

Like the Next Gen episode where they were 100s of Enterprise's and they had to get Warf back to his right ship. And they had to blow up and kill all those from the time line where the Borg ruled the galaxy.


Who knows, in this time line the Borg could be part of the peacful federation.
And the founders are used to fill baby rectal thermometers

And maybe Klingon's will go back to being white guys with beards

Anything is now possiable and acceptable in an alternate time line.

F that. Simple virus and that will be it for them.