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Spiffyguitar · 06-17-2010, 11:31 PM

So I've noticed lately that there is a delay that has developed in power delivery when shifting gears at WOT. For example... I'll be in second and pin the throttle, then quickly shift up to third (lifting slightly to shift) then immediately back on the throttle. I'll have the clutch fully engaged, and my 'go fast' foot to the floor, and there is what seems like a fully .5 - .75 second delay before the power is kicking back in.... a lot like a someone performing a slow shift.

This has started happening shortly after removing my rear cats, so perhaps that's the culprit. Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe I just need a tune? I've been driving high performance manual tranny cars for years now, so I know it's not my technique. I'll be installing some shorties soon (if they ever show up

) so after that I'll perhaps take a trip to the dyno to read my A/F and see what's going on.

Scott@Bjorn3D · 06-18-2010, 05:23 AM

Sounds like Torque Management kicking in. It closes the throttle blade if it thinks the car is going to put to much torque on the drivetrain.

D1BADZ · 06-18-2010, 09:08 AM

yup,
turn traction control off and that goes away, it thinks your going to chirp 3rd which you will if you remove just click the button. try it out , u will feel the difference

THE EVIL TW1N · 06-18-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by D1BADZ

yup,
turn traction control off and that goes away, it thinks your going to chirp 3rd which you will if you remove just click the button. try it out , u will feel the difference

traction control is different than torque management.

tons of LS1 camaro's have had this issue, especially the LS2 GTO's. even the cobra's have it. sucks, but that's the way they tune them. You'd have to get a tune to remove it.

Spiffyguitar · 06-18-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D1BADZ

yup,
turn traction control off and that goes away, it thinks your going to chirp 3rd which you will if you remove just click the button. try it out , u will feel the difference

It's happening a lot with traction control off too... doesn't seem to make a difference. I had that same thought too when it happened the first time.

Spiffyguitar · 06-18-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

Sounds like Torque Management kicking in. It closes the throttle blade if it thinks the car is going to put to much torque on the drivetrain.

Dang computer nanny!!!

Drives me nuts!

VolkCamaro · 06-18-2010, 01:27 PM

No Torque Manangement on the LS3

PQ · 06-18-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VolkCamaro

No Torque Manangement on the LS3

Actually, yes they do. It's just way worse in the auto.

VolkCamaro · 06-18-2010, 10:00 PM

You are correct PQ. Not sure what I was thinking.

06-17-2010, 11:31 PM	#1
Spiffyguitar Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: I'm everywhere Posts: 150	Developed a slight delay between gears on my SS So I've noticed lately that there is a delay that has developed in power delivery when shifting gears at WOT. For example... I'll be in second and pin the throttle, then quickly shift up to third (lifting slightly to shift) then immediately back on the throttle. I'll have the clutch fully engaged, and my 'go fast' foot to the floor, and there is what seems like a fully .5 - .75 second delay before the power is kicking back in.... a lot like a someone performing a slow shift. This has started happening shortly after removing my rear cats, so perhaps that's the culprit. Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe I just need a tune? I've been driving high performance manual tranny cars for years now, so I know it's not my technique. I'll be installing some shorties soon (if they ever show up ) so after that I'll perhaps take a trip to the dyno to read my A/F and see what's going on. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS -6M 397whp/393 ft/lbs

06-18-2010, 09:08 AM	#3
D1BADZ hmmmmm Drives: 2010 IOM in-n-out 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,325 View My Garage	yup, turn traction control off and that goes away, it thinks your going to chirp 3rd which you will if you remove just click the button. try it out , u will feel the difference __________________ "Responsibility is a Heavy Responsibilty" (Cheech)

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Scott@Bjorn3D Drives: Kami, 2013 2SS LS3 Luvin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eufaula, Alabama Posts: 6,427	Sounds like Torque Management kicking in. It closes the throttle blade if it thinks the car is going to put to much torque on the drivetrain.

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06-18-2010, 10:00 PM	#9
VolkCamaro Drives: 2008 Chevrolet Silverado Join Date: May 2010 Location: Warner Robins, Ga Posts: 59	You are correct PQ. Not sure what I was thinking.