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PIC · 01-10-2012, 06:48 PM

Hi guys, my name is Curtis. Some of you may know me from the "check your cats..." thread, but I figured I would start a new thread so everyone can see whats going down right now.

I am a major muscle car/performance enthusiast so I float around on a bunch of different forums. After a while, I started seeing a bunch of threads coming up about cats failing and detonating on force inducted applications and even NA applications. I can't even begin to count how many complaints I've seen about Kooks, SLP, SW and Dynatech's supposed "hi-flow" cats. The pictures I've seen are horrendous. After about a 5 minute talk with our owner, he told me to begin the design phase of a cat that will hold up to forced induction and high horsepower applications.....so here I am.

My first question is, is there anybody that would be interested in purchasing FI/HHP cats? If there is a big enough demand for them, than we may even be able to change the way other companies go about making their cats, sort of revolutionize the industry almost.

I have a meeting next Wednesday with our owner and our investors to discuss the matter. So what I need from you guys is a yes/no answer and why FI/HHP cats would be a welcome thing in the high performance auto world. All of your comments will be directed towards our owner and investors so please be as descriptive as you can when answering.

If there is enough interest in these type of cats than we will be able to start producing them and making them for whomever wants them. We can make any diameter opening that you need to be put onto your pipes.

Thanks for reading guys, I look forward to your responses!

The Stig · 01-10-2012, 06:56 PM

I'm not high enough to need FI cats, but

PIC · 01-10-2012, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stieger

I'm not high enough to need FI cats, but

They'll really be for any power level, just designed mainly for FI/HHP cars. If theyre successful than theyll probably replace our current models.

JLE58 · 01-10-2012, 07:13 PM

Well how high of a HP are we talking about that theses cats can take with out suffering performance. What makes this better or the same than No cats at all?

PIC · 01-10-2012, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLE58

Well how high are a HP are we talking about that theses cats can take with out suffering performance. What makes this better or the same than No cats at all?

Unfortunately I wont be able to give you any performance numbers until we run dyno tests, we are still in the design phase right now. A good high flowing cat with the right cell density and coating will only lose about 3-4 horsepower over an uncatted system. This is mainly for guys that want to remain legal and still have high performance. In Texas alot of counties require emissions testing which requires you to have cats on your car, so anybody living in counties around the country that require emissions testing would get a great benefit out of new FI/HHP cats.

Our goal is to make a cat that will last the life of the vehicle, have a decreased impact on overall performance and will stand up to FI/HHP applications. Cats right now are outdated, the same design has been used for years, its time for something new.

Padre · 01-10-2012, 07:40 PM

This week, we're taking my bolt-on build to the next level with a ProCharger D1.

I currently have JBA Shorties and High-Flow catted midpipes which I will use with the D1.

I have talked with JBA and expect that my current high-flows should be fine for the HP level I'm expecting (600-630).

I plan on hitting the track hard with the new setup, so I will definitely be putting the cats to the test. It's also a daily driver.

If they fail, I have some JBA catless midpipes as backup (or maybe for track days too).

Anyway, I'll keep an eye on this thread, because I would be interested to see your setup and results in case I'm in the market someday.

Padre

blackonblacksls · 01-10-2012, 07:49 PM

I am interested. I have cats on my car. Not because of emissions. But because, of the reduced noise with them installed.

PIC · 01-10-2012, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padre

This week, we're taking my bolt-on build to the next level with a ProCharger D1.

I currently have JBA Shorties and High-Flow catted midpipes which I will use with the D1.

I have talked with JBA and expect that my current high-flows should be fine for the HP level I'm expecting (600-630).

I plan on hitting the track hard with the new setup, so I will definitely be putting the cats to the test. It's also a daily driver.

If they fail, I have some JBA catless midpipes as backup (or maybe for track days too).

Anyway, I'll keep an eye on this thread, because I would be interested to see your setup and results in case I'm in the market someday.

Padre

We supply the substrates for the company that supplies JBA, so you have our current core design on there now! lol

4thGen427CI · 01-10-2012, 08:12 PM

I've been running bolt ons with exhaust setup. And the car is holding fine, but until I part with the 4th gen I won't be going force fed. But when it does I will be highly interested in getting a set

PIC · 01-10-2012, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackonblacksls

I am interested. I have cats on my car. Not because of emissions. But because, of the reduced noise with them installed.

Ok cool, good deal.

PIC · 01-10-2012, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thGen427CI

I've been running bolt ons with exhaust setup. And the car is holding fine, but until I part with the 4th gen I won't be going force fed. But when it does I will be highly interested in getting a set

Awesome man, what brand of headers you running?

Padre · 01-10-2012, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PI_CATALYTIC

We supply the company that supplies JBA, so you have our current design on there now! lol

Ha! That's good to know.

Padre

PIC · 01-10-2012, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padre

Ha! That's good to know.

Padre

IF anything happens to the cats during your build process, could you send them back to us? Then we could analyze them and take them apart to see where the failures are happening. One bad thing about the performance exhaust side of things is that we never hear anything from any of our customers about failures and stuff, so we don't really ever know how our product is working out, so the more feedback I get this way, the better feedback I can give to my boss and the better product we can give back to you guys.

nyny69 · 01-10-2012, 08:26 PM

Yes I am interested. I think it's win win for your company.

Let's say my car is stock and I'm about to start modding with every intention of going FI eventually. With my current knowledge of the high flow failures I'd probably forgo the purchase of high flows with my lt's purchase. With the new design I wouldn't have a 2nd thought.

Another example is if I'm shopping around and Company A uses the new design and Company B is still on the old which do you think more customers will purchase. This means more sales for your vendors which in turn equals more business for your company.

That's my sales pitch on it.

And let's not forget the smell and emissions part of it

01-10-2012, 06:48 PM	#1
PIC Drives: 2005 YJM6 GTO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Burleson, TX Posts: 139	Performance Industries FI/HHP Cats Project Hi guys, my name is Curtis. Some of you may know me from the "check your cats..." thread, but I figured I would start a new thread so everyone can see whats going down right now. I am a major muscle car/performance enthusiast so I float around on a bunch of different forums. After a while, I started seeing a bunch of threads coming up about cats failing and detonating on force inducted applications and even NA applications. I can't even begin to count how many complaints I've seen about Kooks, SLP, SW and Dynatech's supposed "hi-flow" cats. The pictures I've seen are horrendous. After about a 5 minute talk with our owner, he told me to begin the design phase of a cat that will hold up to forced induction and high horsepower applications.....so here I am. My first question is, is there anybody that would be interested in purchasing FI/HHP cats? If there is a big enough demand for them, than we may even be able to change the way other companies go about making their cats, sort of revolutionize the industry almost. I have a meeting next Wednesday with our owner and our investors to discuss the matter. So what I need from you guys is a yes/no answer and why FI/HHP cats would be a welcome thing in the high performance auto world. All of your comments will be directed towards our owner and investors so please be as descriptive as you can when answering. If there is enough interest in these type of cats than we will be able to start producing them and making them for whomever wants them. We can make any diameter opening that you need to be put onto your pipes. Thanks for reading guys, I look forward to your responses! Last edited by PIC; 02-26-2012 at 07:42 PM.

01-10-2012, 06:56 PM	#2
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	I'm not high enough to need FI cats, but __________________

01-10-2012, 07:40 PM	#6
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	This week, we're taking my bolt-on build to the next level with a ProCharger D1. I currently have JBA Shorties and High-Flow catted midpipes which I will use with the D1. I have talked with JBA and expect that my current high-flows should be fine for the HP level I'm expecting (600-630). I plan on hitting the track hard with the new setup, so I will definitely be putting the cats to the test. It's also a daily driver. If they fail, I have some JBA catless midpipes as backup (or maybe for track days too). Anyway, I'll keep an eye on this thread, because I would be interested to see your setup and results in case I'm in the market someday. Padre __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919

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JLE58 Drives: CGM,twin turbo, cam 2010 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ROCKMART, GA Posts: 2,185	Well how high of a HP are we talking about that theses cats can take with out suffering performance. What makes this better or the same than No cats at all?

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