Kenne Bell Vs. Whipple Who Wins?

[Total_Perf_Eng]

I would love for you to substantiate those claims. Because honestly, unless you can prove that, its just propaganda.

Please show me ANY maggie, or any current LS based Whipple on a street car, that has a better torque curve than my 402LS2 with 2.8. This car also had FULL exhaust, with cats. It also legally passed smog on the first try.

This graph has been on KB's website for almost 4 years now.

800rwtq at 2100 RPMS does not show ANY issues with the 4x6 rotor design.

Originally Posted by Whipple Charged

I do agree to some point, the biggest difference in performance will be torque. The maggie and whipple will produce the best torque curves. The TVS2300 is very good down low, as is the Whipple with the 3/5 rotor. A 4x6 rotor is made for high speed.

[Total_Perf_Eng]

We FINALLY have a GTO being transported to us from FL. I thin its gonna start on its way next week, provided the owner follows through on his proise..
Sorry for the hijack.

Originally Posted by EDISKRAD EHT

It's nice to see there is going to be choices for this car as opposed to the GTO. The belt slip problems on the TVS 2300's I've seen is what held me back from going with one on it.

[Will@Apf]

Originally Posted by Total_Perf_Eng

Please show me ANY maggie, or any current LS based Whipple on a street car, that has a better torque curve than my 402LS2 with 2.8.
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LOL..

[Mike@KB]

Jeff I wonder what it's going to with the 3.6LC

Originally Posted by Total_Perf_Eng

I would love for you to substantiate those claims. Because honestly, unless you can prove that, its just propaganda.

Please show me ANY maggie, or any current LS based Whipple on a street car, that has a better torque curve than my 402LS2 with 2.8. This car also had FULL exhaust, with cats. It also legally passed smog on the first try.

This graph has been on KB's website for almost 4 years now.

800rwtq at 2100 RPMS does not show ANY issues with the 4x6 rotor design.

[East Coast Supercharging]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

That dudes sig says he has 805rwhp! If thats on the stock shortblock I would have to call

Originally Posted by Z_Rocks

That's not BS at all. His car is setup by one of the best shops, Dallas Performance. He actually just upgraded it. That car is a monster! and no

Sorry, but Z rocks is spot on with this one. We have over 30 C6's now making over 700rwhp with 100% stock engines, some with cams. It is amazing how well they hold up, darn near incredible. If you told me ten years ago we would be able to do that I would say the same thing, so it's completely understandable.

Granted that will never happen with any roots or screw blower on a stock bottom end, but it can be done with a centrifugal.

Here is an example of a car that happens to be the fastest std C6 on the CF, and it has (and still has) it's stock engine in it with a blower cam. It makes 790 rwhp threw an automatic.

video. http://www.youtube.com/user/ECSRacin...29/Jx1AH-EnlhE

60' = 1.406
330= 3.931
660=6.214
MPH= 108.39
1000= 8.144
ET = 9.732
MPH = 143.17

The complete mod list;

ECS Novi 2200 Paxton kit with 8 rib upgrade.
ECS LS2 blower cam
ECS alky kit
ECS Fuel system
RPM level 5 trans
3600 stall converter
3.42 rear
American Racing headers

Everything else is 100% stock including the mufflers, and the vehicle is full weight, both stock seats etc etc etc.



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[Will@Apf]

Originally Posted by Mike@KB

Jeff I wonder what it's going to with the 3.6LC

I wonder when i can order the 2010 camaro kit for my customer..

[Total_Perf_Eng]

HAHA..
Soon...Very Soon.

As of a few days ago, they were finalizing pricing for authorized installers and DIY'rs.

Originally Posted by Will@Apf

I wonder when i can order the 2010 camaro kit for my customer..

[Total_Perf_Eng]

Well, based on the 4x6 rotors, and horrible billet case, it prolly wont make more than 300rwhp..

Originally Posted by Mike@KB

Jeff I wonder what it's going to with the 3.6LC

[Whipple Charged]

Originally Posted by Total_Perf_Eng

Well, based on the 4x6 rotors, and horrible billet case, it prolly wont make more than 300rwhp..

I don't even think 1 person said such a thing. 4x6's are good for high rpm, not for low speed. As said before, was just clarifying that the extruded case is not machined from a solid piece as it was said.

[Whipple Charged]

Originally Posted by Total_Perf_Eng

I would love for you to substantiate those claims. Because honestly, unless you can prove that, its just propaganda.

Please show me ANY maggie, or any current LS based Whipple on a street car, that has a better torque curve than my 402LS2 with 2.8. This car also had FULL exhaust, with cats. It also legally passed smog on the first try.

This graph has been on KB's website for almost 4 years now.

800rwtq at 2100 RPMS does not show ANY issues with the 4x6 rotor design.

We will soon enough, and comparison data too boot. KB's graphs have always been spot on

[thalilbear02]

Originally Posted by Total_Perf_Eng

HAHA..
Soon...Very Soon.

As of a few days ago, they were finalizing pricing for authorized installers and DIY'rs.

Once you get pricing, I would like to get it, I think the next step is just to get some pricing down and make my decision from there, but since my Kenne Bell on my Mustang is still running hard, I think I might still go with them.

I can't wait!

[Whipple Charged]

Originally Posted by Total_Perf_Eng

I would love for you to substantiate those claims. Because honestly, unless you can prove that, its just propaganda.

Please show me ANY maggie, or any current LS based Whipple on a street car, that has a better torque curve than my 402LS2 with 2.8. This car also had FULL exhaust, with cats. It also legally passed smog on the first try.

This graph has been on KB's website for almost 4 years now.

800rwtq at 2100 RPMS does not show ANY issues with the 4x6 rotor design.

Here's a almost stock motor, stock CI, stock L92 heads, upgraded rockers and a off the shelf junk cam, head gaskets and forged pistons for 9:1 compression. 91 octane, pump gas. Didn't load it below, but peak torque was at an even lower rpm. This is the 3.3L unit, with our original inlet and smaller IC (1" thinner) and plenuem was 1/4 of the current size.

[Total_Perf_Eng]

They have always been spot on when I have been there. If you would lke, the dyno video is up on YT..

Question: What chassis dyno do you guys own at your facility in fresno? Does Whipple actually own their own Chassis dyno? I have heard from members that you do not own one, but since were conversing on this thread, i figured I'd ask you personally.

Originally Posted by Whipple Charged

We will soon enough, and comparison data too boot. KB's graphs have always been spot on

[Total_Perf_Eng]

So you consider forged pistons/rods, custom cam, 10 rib system, and overdrive crank pulley, "Almost Stock".. Huh..