Z28 and the 5th Gen Refresh.

[2cnd chance]

That's an 05' Z06.
However the fact that the Boss is in that company is awesome. If a Camaro performed like that for those $$ I'd own it

[truth411]

Originally Posted by anthonyj9h

numbers are numbers in this game

whenever any car manufacturer flys out their own driver, expect great lap times. If GM did the same the Z06 lap times would be even faster. In any case if anybody thinks the boss is going to be "crushing" the Z06s at your local track days, your going to be disappointed. But the boss is a decent package.

[anthonyj9h]

Originally Posted by truth411

whenever any car manufacturer flys out their own driver, expect great lap times. If GM did the same the Z06 lap times would be even faster. In any case if anybody thinks the boss is going to be "crushing" the Z06s at your local track days, your going to be disappointed. But the boss is a decent package.

weither it beats it or not dollar for dollar it has a better value for what it does and who it has to compete with and hang

[thePill]

Originally Posted by truth411

whenever any car manufacturer flys out their own driver, expect great lap times. If GM did the same the Z06 lap times would be even faster. In any case if anybody thinks the boss is going to be "crushing" the Z06s at your local track days, your going to be disappointed. But the boss is a decent package.

Actually, those times were accomplished by Road and Track and Motor Trend. The driver that Ford invited to drive the Boss at Laguna Seca never released what the actual times were. Ford just stated that the times were sub 1:39 which was far faster than Ford's 1:42 goal. For the record, both Ford and GM use their own drivers to acquire the fastest lap times, an example of this would be the CTS-V's run at the Ring.

[camarolt76]

It has been many years since GM has done a refresh of any car after only 3 years, and I don't see them changing the trend with the Camaro. That's not to say I would be against it, but I don't think it will happen.

[thePill]

Just waiting on the approval from Team Camaro...

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by thePill

Actually, those times were accomplished by Road and Track and Motor Trend. The driver that Ford invited to drive the Boss at Laguna Seca never released what the actual times were. Ford just stated that the times were sub 1:39 which was far faster than Ford's 1:42 goal. For the record, both Ford and GM use their own drivers to acquire the fastest lap times, an example of this would be the CTS-V's run at the Ring.

Incorrect according to the article I read.

[truth411]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Incorrect according to the article I read.

But I am at work and can't post the link.

[truth411]

Originally Posted by anthonyj9h

weither it beats it or not dollar for dollar it has a better value for what it does and who it has to compete with and hang

Dollar for Dollar I would still take a Z06, (They are really that fast). A better lap comparision would be Car and Driver's Lightning lap since they use the same driver for all cars. Thus generaly speaking the difference in lap times comes down to each cars abilities not the driver.

[Number 3]

You also have to consider the track. Different courses for different horses. I think by picking Laguna, there is a slight advantage to the lower HP car.

Anyone that's driven a Z06 knows the car is wayyyyyyyy under tired for the low weight and high HP. And without a long straight to stretch it out, the Z06 didn't get to show it's stuff.

For example, I have been told that the Cup Tires offered as an option on the 2012 Z06 alone cut 2 to 3 seconds PER LAP at one of the local tracks.

Boss is a fine package, but not so fine as to run with a car 500 pounds lighter and 60 HP short. Math isn't there.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Number 3

You also have to consider the track. Different courses for different horses. I think by picking Laguna, there is a slight advantage to the lower HP car.

Anyone that's driven a Z06 knows the car is wayyyyyyyy under tired for the low weight and high HP. And without a long straight to stretch it out, the Z06 didn't get to show it's stuff.

For example, I have been told that the Cup Tires offered as an option on the 2012 Z06 alone cut 2 to 3 seconds PER LAP at one of the local tracks.

Boss is a fine package, but not so fine as to run with a car 500 pounds lighter and 60 HP short. Math isn't there.

If I was willing to spend $80K+ I would jump on a black Z06. The black ones are one of the meanest looking cars ever!!! Stats are incredible.

Number 3, how does the Z06 Carbon (loaded for bear) fair in most racing circumstances to the ZR1?

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

If I was willing to spend $80K+ I would jump on a black Z06. The black ones are one of the meanest looking cars ever!!! Stats are incredible.

Number 3, how does the Z06 Carbon (loaded for bear) fair in most racing circumstances to the ZR1?

Hoping to sample one of those soon. With MR and the brakes it's essentially a ZR1with a bit less HP. But I haven't seen or heard any good comparisons yet.

[2cnd chance]

But it is quite a bit lighter isn't it

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

But it is quite a bit lighter isn't it

I think the Z06 is about 150 pounds or so lighter. The ZR1 has the SC and some more sound deadener, I am not sure if the Carbon Package gives you the CF roof panel and roof bow or not, but it's not lighter enough to make up for the 130 HP shortfall. And with the brakes etc., the price of the Z06 starts to climb around $90,000 I think so at that point go big.