Does anyone have or considered having water/meth injection - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Godsplumber · 10-11-2012, 04:41 PM

If so what do you think about it? What system are you running, what do you recommend? If not, why not?. Let me know what you think.

Z69 · 10-11-2012, 07:24 PM

Not recommend the meth eats the coating on the rotors of the super charger

Godsplumber · 10-11-2012, 08:35 PM

What about just water

1MtnGoat · 10-11-2012, 09:02 PM

Probably will do the same. At rate of speed the rotors spin it would be like pressure washing only the rotors are hitting the water droplets.

hognutz · 10-11-2012, 09:20 PM

the rotors are teflon coated I do believe and depending on how the mixture atomizes it can strip the coating off.

Now if you reasearch it you will see not everbody has the same opintion of how important the coating is.

I would call eaton and snow if you really want to run meth. I think I am liking the chiller solutions better for this car.

Drew P · 10-12-2012, 06:54 AM

Pros: Large potential power for relatively cheap price (octane/cooling effect)
Cons: If your pump(s) fail, you will probably rebuild your motor.

As to the coating, I have not talked to Eaton directly, but found that the coatings are in fact designed to aid the wear-in process of the rotors. This said, some shops actually completely strip the coatings. I think the real fear is that the coatings will come off while using meth/water and be ingested into the engine.

If anyone has any different/additional thoughts, I too would be interested to hear them.

I have largely held off from this for fear of pump failure. Does anyone know if a two pump (redundancy) system exists?

Godsplumber · 10-12-2012, 12:10 PM

For some reason i feel the consensus would be to not run water/meth. Rebuilding an engine doesnt sound like something i want to do.

bumblebeecamaro · 10-12-2012, 01:02 PM

there's some comments in this thread that seem to be from uneducated people when it comes to water/meth injection.

first of all, water/meth has been around and has been used for a long time by a lot of people. I have yet to hear anything negative in terms of wearing this so called coating off rotors. if in fact that was the case, then why haven't these stories came about?

second, water/meth injection is completely safe as long as people don't tune the application where it is dependent on the water/meth system. it's one and only sole purpose is to cool the incoming air mixture which in turn helps to prevent or at least slow down detonation. but no tuner in his or her RIGHT MIND should ever tune an application where it's dependent on the benefits of water/meth.

Z69 · 10-12-2012, 05:00 PM

Trust me I have seen it....the coating will come off and get ingested by the engine. I'll see if I could get some pics. If not do a googel search for your self and you will see the damage to the coating

SC2150 · 10-12-2012, 06:14 PM

Z69 is correct.

Go with the RX Super Chiller. Install is easy and no $ to spend afterwards....it just does its job.

Godsplumber · 10-13-2012, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z69

Trust me I have seen it....the coating will come off and get ingested by the engine. I'll see if I could get some pics. If not do a googel search for your self and you will see the damage to the coating

I would really like to see more about this

Godsplumber · 10-13-2012, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC2150

Z69 is correct.

Go with the RX Super Chiller. Install is easy and no $ to spend afterwards....it just does its job.

What are the comparable benefits of each and what ranks better? What are the differences in benefit, ie.. power, etc? What are the cons of each?

dangjohnny · 10-13-2012, 05:30 PM

Try it. I'd like to see the results!

hognutz · 10-13-2012, 10:06 PM

If you just tune the car normal and use meth to reduce you temps you will never blow a motor due low fluid or pump or injector failure

As far as eating the coating it will but that is why I would talk to eaton. Not listen to people on the web. That coating be designed to naturally wear overtime for all we know.

10-11-2012, 04:41 PM	#1
Godsplumber Drives: 2012 ZL1,Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 400 View My Garage	Does anyone have or considered having water/meth injection If so what do you think about it? What system are you running, what do you recommend? If not, why not?. Let me know what you think.

10-11-2012, 07:24 PM	#2
Z69 Drives: ZL1 ,TT 03 cobra,69 camaro Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: miami Posts: 218 View My Garage	Not recommend the meth eats the coating on the rotors of the super charger Last edited by Z69; 10-12-2012 at 11:24 AM.

10-11-2012, 08:35 PM	#3
Godsplumber Drives: 2012 ZL1,Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 400 View My Garage	What about just water __________________ Build thread located at: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=1#post5732710

10-11-2012, 09:20 PM	#5
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	the rotors are teflon coated I do believe and depending on how the mixture atomizes it can strip the coating off. Now if you reasearch it you will see not everbody has the same opintion of how important the coating is. I would call eaton and snow if you really want to run meth. I think I am liking the chiller solutions better for this car. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

10-12-2012, 01:02 PM	#8
bumblebeecamaro Car Lover By Nature Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue Metallic SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central FL Posts: 2,327 View My Garage	there's some comments in this thread that seem to be from uneducated people when it comes to water/meth injection. first of all, water/meth has been around and has been used for a long time by a lot of people. I have yet to hear anything negative in terms of wearing this so called coating off rotors. if in fact that was the case, then why haven't these stories came about? second, water/meth injection is completely safe as long as people don't tune the application where it is dependent on the water/meth system. it's one and only sole purpose is to cool the incoming air mixture which in turn helps to prevent or at least slow down detonation. but no tuner in his or her RIGHT MIND should ever tune an application where it's dependent on the benefits of water/meth. __________________

10-11-2012, 09:02 PM	#4
1MtnGoat Drives: '12 SIM ZL1, 1 of 49 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Eastern TN Posts: 459	Probably will do the same. At rate of speed the rotors spin it would be like pressure washing only the rotors are hitting the water droplets.

10-12-2012, 06:54 AM	#6
Drew P Drives: Camaro ZL1 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 233	Pros: Large potential power for relatively cheap price (octane/cooling effect) Cons: If your pump(s) fail, you will probably rebuild your motor. As to the coating, I have not talked to Eaton directly, but found that the coatings are in fact designed to aid the wear-in process of the rotors. This said, some shops actually completely strip the coatings. I think the real fear is that the coatings will come off while using meth/water and be ingested into the engine. If anyone has any different/additional thoughts, I too would be interested to hear them. I have largely held off from this for fear of pump failure. Does anyone know if a two pump (redundancy) system exists?

10-12-2012, 12:10 PM	#7
Godsplumber Drives: 2012 ZL1,Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Gilbert, Az Posts: 400 View My Garage	For some reason i feel the consensus would be to not run water/meth. Rebuilding an engine doesnt sound like something i want to do.

10-12-2012, 05:00 PM	#9
Z69 Drives: ZL1 ,TT 03 cobra,69 camaro Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: miami Posts: 218 View My Garage	Trust me I have seen it....the coating will come off and get ingested by the engine. I'll see if I could get some pics. If not do a googel search for your self and you will see the damage to the coating

10-12-2012, 06:14 PM	#10
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Z69 is correct. Go with the RX Super Chiller. Install is easy and no $ to spend afterwards....it just does its job.

10-13-2012, 05:30 PM	#13
dangjohnny Drives: ‘21 ZL1 1LE 6MT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Floribama Posts: 622	Try it. I'd like to see the results! __________________ ZL1 1LE Black - 6MT - PDR - Nav - Michelin PS4s

10-13-2012, 10:06 PM	#14
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	If you just tune the car normal and use meth to reduce you temps you will never blow a motor due low fluid or pump or injector failure As far as eating the coating it will but that is why I would talk to eaton. Not listen to people on the web. That coating be designed to naturally wear overtime for all we know. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned