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Old 12-27-2010, 10:29 PM   #1
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Wanting to go with an aggressive cam and heads

I currently have the mast motosports stage 2 cam, kooks LT, no cats, halltech CAI, DOD delete kit, and tune on my L99.....Im looking to get a more aggressive cam with heads, Whats out there for me as in head cam package? I am planning to add a SC in the future? Should I go to my installer and have a custom grind cam or get a package from a vendor on C5?

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Old 12-27-2010, 11:10 PM   #2
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How much boost? SC works well with stock heads and stock cam at lower boost settings. Boost level is the key. Deck thickness is important with higher boost levels. SC usually don't like aggressive cams as they let too much of the boost get past the exhaust valves.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:14 PM   #3
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The LG Motorsports G6X3 is supposed to be a pretty aggressive cam but if you are going F/I you may want to go milder than Mast Stage II.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:13 AM   #4
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The LG Motorsports G6X3 is supposed to be a pretty aggressive cam but if you are going F/I you may want to go milder than Mast Stage II.
Truth.....the X3 is a great all around Cam (perhaps too much for the modest) but going F/I would definitely change the envelope and curve. Perhaps even for the worse.

The G6XE might serve to be a better option. It's tame enough for F/I, but still affords some moderate gains before the boost comes in. Let me know if we can help.

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Old 12-28-2010, 12:30 AM   #5
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Ivan, Do you have the G6XE and a head package? or would you recommend me just going with the cam if im going with FI? Sorry im a newb haha
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:43 AM   #6
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If you are going to go FI, why not look at the LS9 cam? Lingenfelter is selling them on their site for 159 bones. Sounds like they are impressed with it. I know I'm impressed by their car!
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if you get to aggressive cam you will need a higher stall converter. not sure where the cutoff is for size....i'm going with livernois stage 2c which is about as much as you can go with the stock converter
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:07 PM   #8
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Im gonna get a stall converter aswell, I just want a cam with heads that will allow me to had a whipple sc in the future
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Old 12-28-2010, 05:56 PM   #9
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Couple questions I think really need to be addressed.

1. How do you drive the car?
2. What is the end goal?

Those are probably the two biggest questions that need to be answered. Sure our G6X3 is very popular and makes a lot of power, but is it right for everyone? No, which is why we have other grinds of cams out there, and if that doesn't work, we will custom grind one.

Pay attention to the RPM range you spend most of your time in, and focus on that.

Are you going to go forced induction? I do have customers that use the X3 with a blower, is it my first choice, not really but it still makes a heck of a lot of power if you do choose to go that route.

Given you have an automatic gears and torque converter are going to play a role as well. Do you want to base the converter around the cam, or the cam around the converter? Some do not want to have to use a big stall so there would be no use to do a big cam if you do not want to run the converter.


Give us a buzz, I would be more than happy to answer any questions I can about any of our own cams, and their results.
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Im gonna get a stall converter aswell, I just want a cam with heads that will allow me to had a whipple sc in the future
Antz. You should talk to Brian@Laramiegmautocenter. He installed my LG G6XB cam as well as my entire build. Needless to say the results speak for themselves. He also built Ted's. Very safe, solid and conservitive build.
Remember to do the timing chain and tensioner at the same time. Also yours is a l99 so you got new valves to do at the same time as the cam. Cant wait to see what you will get out of the Whipple. Brian also has become an fuel system expert after doing Ted's, Garth's and mine back to back to back. Get er done man....before we head to AZ!
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Edit...Oooops I forgot you already have done a cam so you probably already have most of all the above done.
The G6XB probably is not as agressive as what you already have but it sure makes low end power and torque. Here is the dyno results.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:31 PM   #11
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Couple questions I think really need to be addressed.

1. How do you drive the car?
2. What is the end goal?

Those are probably the two biggest questions that need to be answered. Sure our G6X3 is very popular and makes a lot of power, but is it right for everyone? No, which is why we have other grinds of cams out there, and if that doesn't work, we will custom grind one.

Pay attention to the RPM range you spend most of your time in, and focus on that.

Are you going to go forced induction? I do have customers that use the X3 with a blower, is it my first choice, not really but it still makes a heck of a lot of power if you do choose to go that route.

Given you have an automatic gears and torque converter are going to play a role as well. Do you want to base the converter around the cam, or the cam around the converter? Some do not want to have to use a big stall so there would be no use to do a big cam if you do not want to run the converter.


Give us a buzz, I would be more than happy to answer any questions I can about any of our own cams, and their results.


Anthony,

I drive the car pretty rough and I take it to the dragstrip almost every week, and its a weekend driver.

My goal HP wise is to be around 600 to 650 rwhp, and Im not sure if I want to have the cam around the converter or vise versa, What would you recommend for my HP goals? Like I said Im a newb at this stuff, I just have the need for power lol

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Ivan, Do you have the G6XE and a head package? or would you recommend me just going with the cam if im going with FI? Sorry im a newb haha
If you're considering heads as well, then most likely a custom ground (same price) Cam would be more beneficial.

No worry at all on being new to something you don't know. That's why everybody here reads, asks, and lurks the threads.

Nobody ever knows everything.

Anthony (at LG) has rediculous knowledge on Cams and what his will and won't do for you. He's a graet resource to us all here.

Let me know when you're ready...nobody beats our service or prices.

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Old 12-29-2010, 10:34 PM   #13
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Ivan, How much for a custom grind and heads?
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Anthony,

I drive the car pretty rough and I take it to the dragstrip almost every week, and its a weekend driver.

My goal HP wise is to be around 600 to 650 rwhp, and Im not sure if I want to have the cam around the converter or vise versa, What would you recommend for my HP goals? Like I said Im a newb at this stuff, I just have the need for power lol

Thanks
600-650 RWHP you are looking at a blower or some sort of forced induction for sure. An NA build at that power level would not be streetable.

I would also highly suggest start to look for a transmission now if you are going to drag race the car. The 6spd auto isn't terrible but that is pushing that transmission WAY past what GM designed it for. Most serious racers are converting to a 4L80E conversion when making big power numbers.
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