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Kwilson3.6 · 06-23-2015, 04:27 PM

I'm wanting to get these mace cams for my 13 LFX but I'm curious if they are actually worth the gains? This is my daily driver and is basically stock except for a trifecta tune and an exhaust.

kuzman89 · 06-23-2015, 11:34 PM

A guy from Arkansas made about 45rwhp on his LFX, had it tuned by these guys:
http://www.gwatneyperformance.com/

IneedAZ · 06-24-2015, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kuzman89

A guy from Arkansas made about 45rwhp on his LFX, had it tuned by these guys:
http://www.gwatneyperformance.com/

Not sure if answered before, but was that guy tuned prior to the cam swap and tune? Want to know if the 45hp is above an already tuned engine, if not then a good portion of the 45 is in getting a tune.

JantzenOKC · 06-24-2015, 08:56 AM

Plus if GPI did cams and it worked out really well I think we would be hearing about it. I remember Derrek asking Ryan from GPI about it and never really heard anything other than yes he did one. I just dont see huge gains from this cam swap.

IneedAZ · 06-25-2015, 05:40 AM

is this car a member of camaro5 forums

kuzman89 · 06-30-2015, 01:06 AM

I am not sure to be honest, maybe Gwatney performance can clarify.

Awesome result though.

kenkartasasmita · 06-30-2015, 03:26 AM

how much is it again is this mod installed? worth the price for llt or lfx?

kuzman89 · 07-05-2015, 11:06 PM

They say about 30-40hp, the one in the graph above made about 45rwhp with cams only.

Danthuyer · 07-14-2015, 03:40 AM

if you have a good confident tuner that is familiar with VCM suite by HP Tuners then go for it !

AITI · 07-14-2015, 10:22 AM

TuckerPerformance in FL has them installed for around $2k..

Shawno72 · 04-22-2016, 03:15 AM

Interesting.

ghosted · 04-22-2016, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwilson3.6

I'm wanting to get these mace cams for my 13 LFX but I'm curious if they are actually worth the gains? This is my daily driver and is basically stock except for a trifecta tune and an exhaust.

The Mace Cams have proven to be a big pain for the minimal gains. I've found out why they're weak, and a few of us are working towards having some new cams made here in the USA...but they're not going to be cheap. :\

I'll be posting here once we make some more progress on the topic.

Byron_7 · 04-22-2016, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghosted

The Mace Cams have proven to be a big pain for the minimal gains. I've found out why they're weak, and a few of us are working towards having some new cams made here in the USA...but they're not going to be cheap. :\

I'll be posting here once we make some more progress on the topic.

Looking forward to this

Skullcandy · 04-22-2016, 03:35 PM

I just don't understand how only one guy can get a good tune and that power gain (which is decent) from just cams while the other guys who try come up dry or spend a stupid amount of money to get close or have a f/I set up. Also, how many others that we know of have tried this besides the couple we know have already heard from? Not trying to stir any arguments or what not but I just don't understand why the "American" cars can't get the same gains. It's apparent that they don't, when considering most people who bought them but no one really says anything other than they are hard to tune or its not worth the time and money. It's like we all want cams but we get easily discouraged. That's how I was and still partially am but hell, if there's someone out there who says they can get me an increase that's good and I wouldn't break the bank or have serious issues I'd be on board. (serious as in my motor blowing the hell up) I understand there are unforeseen things that could cause issues but it's part of modding a car. I mean the cams from mace you can get for right under a grand and I would have no problem installing them. That leaves the tune. So let's say 1500 or so for 50whp. (Depending if the tuner just charges a flat rate and understands the way a quad cam car works) That's not all that bad.. Yeah it's a lot of money but there's 4 cams... And it's not a v8 and we will probably be hard pressed to see crazy gains from cams like the ls3 does. I get it's an understudied area for our cars but What is just hard for me to grasp is why are they so hard to tune or what underlying issues are there. I'm no tuner but I understand all of it fairly well. Can a tuner or anyone maybe bring to light some of these issues that may not have been talked about as much

06-23-2015, 04:27 PM	#1
Kwilson3.6 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Kentucky Posts: 23	Mace cams for LFX?? I'm wanting to get these mace cams for my 13 LFX but I'm curious if they are actually worth the gains? This is my daily driver and is basically stock except for a trifecta tune and an exhaust.

06-24-2015, 08:56 AM	#4
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04-22-2016, 03:35 PM	#14
Skullcandy Drives: 2013 camaro 2ls Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 519 View My Garage	Mace cams for LFX?? I just don't understand how only one guy can get a good tune and that power gain (which is decent) from just cams while the other guys who try come up dry or spend a stupid amount of money to get close or have a f/I set up. Also, how many others that we know of have tried this besides the couple we know have already heard from? Not trying to stir any arguments or what not but I just don't understand why the "American" cars can't get the same gains. It's apparent that they don't, when considering most people who bought them but no one really says anything other than they are hard to tune or its not worth the time and money. It's like we all want cams but we get easily discouraged. That's how I was and still partially am but hell, if there's someone out there who says they can get me an increase that's good and I wouldn't break the bank or have serious issues I'd be on board. (serious as in my motor blowing the hell up) I understand there are unforeseen things that could cause issues but it's part of modding a car. I mean the cams from mace you can get for right under a grand and I would have no problem installing them. That leaves the tune. So let's say 1500 or so for 50whp. (Depending if the tuner just charges a flat rate and understands the way a quad cam car works) That's not all that bad.. Yeah it's a lot of money but there's 4 cams... And it's not a v8 and we will probably be hard pressed to see crazy gains from cams like the ls3 does. I get it's an understudied area for our cars but What is just hard for me to grasp is why are they so hard to tune or what underlying issues are there. I'm no tuner but I understand all of it fairly well. Can a tuner or anyone maybe bring to light some of these issues that may not have been talked about as much Last edited by Skullcandy; 04-22-2016 at 06:29 PM.

06-23-2015, 11:34 PM	#2
kuzman89 Drives: Ly7 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: bezza Posts: 253	A guy from Arkansas made about 45rwhp on his LFX, had it tuned by these guys: http://www.gwatneyperformance.com/

06-30-2015, 01:06 AM	#6
kuzman89 Drives: Ly7 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: bezza Posts: 253	I am not sure to be honest, maybe Gwatney performance can clarify. Awesome result though.

07-05-2015, 11:06 PM	#8
kuzman89 Drives: Ly7 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: bezza Posts: 253	They say about 30-40hp, the one in the graph above made about 45rwhp with cams only.

07-14-2015, 03:40 AM	#9
Danthuyer Drives: AUS Commodore SV6 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Sydney, AUS Posts: 18	if you have a good confident tuner that is familiar with VCM suite by HP Tuners then go for it !

07-14-2015, 10:22 AM	#10
AITI Account Suspended Drives: 2015 LFX Auto Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US of A Posts: 280	TuckerPerformance in FL has them installed for around $2k..