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Old 01-23-2015, 08:22 AM   #1
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Thumbs down America’s best-selling cars and trucks are built on lies

I wonder if there is a way to disable it?

America’s best-selling cars and trucks are built on lies
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:46 AM   #2
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Cant wait for the new electric car must make engine noise laws to pass. I wonder if they will have a set sound for them or if the car makers can pick and it just has to be a certain decibel range. Be funny if a car maker made one that gave you a selection v12, v10, v8, w16, inline 6, v6, turbo, supercharger, moped, lawnmower, weedwacker, vtwin, .......?????
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Old 01-23-2015, 11:09 AM   #3
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Yeah, they (especially Ford) are scrambling hard to put a spin on this issue....

I think if the stereo is dis-abled for whatever reason, then you don't get any phony engine sound, you hear the real thing...

I hope they crucify them on this issue...Fine if they were honest about it and let the buyer know what was going on and offered it as an option...But they are trying to spin fake as real and so far no matter how they try to rationalize it, this engine sound through the speakers is a joke.
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Old 01-23-2015, 11:33 AM   #4
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I really don't see what the big deal is...
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Old 01-23-2015, 11:49 AM   #5
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Yup, when I was a kid too young to drive, had a wooden clothspin holding a Honus Wagner in the spokes on my Mongoose and coupled occasionally with an uttered vroom vroom and screeetch!

So glad we are returning to days gone by.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:13 PM   #6
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All I know for sure is my car's rumble is not fake. lol
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:27 PM   #7
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I really don't see what the big deal is...
Not a huge deal, but its pretty lame and a cheap trick.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:44 PM   #8
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“If you’re going to do that stuff, do that stuff. Own it. Tell customers: If you want a V-8 rumble, you’ve gotta buy a V-8 that costs more, gets worse gas mileage and hurts the Earth,” Brauer said. “You’re fabricating the car’s sexiness. You’re fabricating performance elements of the car that don’t actually exist. That just feels deceptive to me.”
What a pompous ass.

This is such a non-issue it's not even funny.
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Old 01-23-2015, 12:54 PM   #9
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The main problem is that most people want quiet interior yet they still like hearing the engine. Without gimmicks like sound tubes, noise cancellation, or playing engine sounds through the speaker you can't have both.
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Old 01-23-2015, 01:31 PM   #10
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The main problem is that most people want quiet interior yet they still like hearing the engine. Without gimmicks like sound tubes, noise cancellation, or playing engine sounds through the speaker you can't have both.
You are correct about people like hearing the engine....but according to Ford's research, I believe, no-one liked the actual engine noise made by the actual engine in the car....That's why the sound was changed, massaged, "processed" to sound like something it's not....something different, more powerful, more old-school, more rumble, whatever....thus, it's a fake engine sound, not the engine sound you would get with the engine you are buying.....
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:00 PM   #11
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I like the idea. In the Z06 you can control the volume of the exhaust sound (not sure how it works), but I can imagine drowning out some noise (like from a certain passenger) with it.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:25 PM   #12
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Some methods I'm definitely on the fence about; BMW's M5 had a complete engine soundtrack played through the sound system. While others are not as bad; Mustang Ecoboost's ASM mearly emits frequencies that cancell out unwanted noise so you don't hear them, no amplification of engine noise happens. And then there are methods im totally ok with; the 5.0's sound tube, which itself is full of padding for whatever reason, simply lets the cabin hear a little more induction noise.

I guess if this has to happen because engines are becoming ever more and more refined...so be it. And if this is the issue we're picking to argue then it seems we're scrapping the bottom of the barrel for things to hate. That's not a bad thing.

Also to those who hate this, I've seen many members here and on ther boards bring up the New GT's use of a 3.5EB rather than a V8. They say that they don't care about the fact that it'll make nice hp and have a broad tq curve because it that's not the whole experience, that the sound of a strong V8 also needs to be there. To me it seems like these are the people that would say;
"I hate it because it doesn't sound like a V8."
and then turn around in almost the same sentence say;
"I hate it because they made it sound like a V8."
This just struck me as an odd paradigm.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:26 PM   #13
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For anyone who may not have this engine sound speaker feature in your car and want one....the aftermarket has your back...

http://www.soundracer.se/?p=98
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BMW has been doing this for years
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