05-09-2020, 10:22 AM | #1 |
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Maxed out another set of injectors. Time for Bosch 210's?
Looking at logs from the stock ls3 and G3X combo, it looks like I will need more Fuel injector with the 427 and G4X blower combo. This will be my third time upgrading injectors, and I want it to be the last.
I've read a lot about the Bosch 210 injectors and it seems guys are using the injector data from ID2000's and having good success. The only problem I've found is people seem to have trouble getting them to idle perfect with regular pump 91/93 octane. However, with E85, they do well. I only run E85, so I won't encounter that problem. 1. Anyone here running them? 2. Are you on the stock ECM? 3. Where did you buy them from? 4. Which data did you use? 5. Does anyone sell them flow matched? EDIT: Currently running FIC1300
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05-09-2020, 12:46 PM | #2 | |
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05-09-2020, 02:21 PM | #3 |
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Yes sir. Used one set on my last setup on strictly pump e85. Tons of injector left.
Currently have 2 bosch 210s per cylinder now with alcohol on the same sbe 6.0. I have them both wired to the same driver so they will fire together. I will be starting it up this week and don't suspect ill have any issues
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05-09-2020, 10:10 PM | #4 | |
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05-10-2020, 04:12 AM | #5 | |
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05-11-2020, 12:57 PM | #6 |
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First, my car has been down a long time. I start it every so often to cycle oil through it, but that's it.
I think I have the FIC 2100's and e85. I've monkeyed with the idle off & on for a long time, so this is what I recall. The min injector pulse has steps. At one step, the car starts and idles okay, but is actually rich (.85 lambda comes to mind) The next step down the car runs at stoich, but then suddenly goes inexplicably lean. So, if I were to take the time to fix my MAF/MAP values, I think it would idle just fine on that large of an injector. I have the FF sensor, so I suspect it wouldn't make any difference what fuel I'm using. In short, it's ultra-sensitive to tuning. Injectors are usually 3+ms (roughly), but these have to run at .3ms (1/10 of normal) and still seem to handle it. I'm not sure if they'll handle .2ms though.
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05-11-2020, 03:46 PM | #7 |
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I see 80 percent DC, that's not maxed out...or am I missing something? Edit, nvm!!!!!! lol
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05-11-2020, 04:50 PM | #8 | |
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05-11-2020, 09:04 PM | #9 |
I am sure it is in this thread somewhere, but did you buy directly from ESS or from JRE
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05-11-2020, 09:46 PM | #10 |
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Are you talking about the ESS kit? If so, I bought from ESS, but Ted handled my last tune. Looking for info on the bosch 210s tho.
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05-11-2020, 10:02 PM | #11 |
Sorry. Was thinking this was the original thread about the supercharger.
My Bad.
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05-12-2020, 06:01 AM | #12 | |
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Yes stock ecu Bought from fuel injector connection Data from hours of time tuning Yes they are matched from fuel injector connection Their is no real data. being our ecu injector stuff is limited
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05-12-2020, 06:44 AM | #13 |
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Are you planning on tuning with ted again? If so I'd go with what he is used to tuning or at least get his input.
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