Who wants to see my rear?!?! - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

danhr · 10-12-2010, 07:00 PM

bunch of pervs here on camaro5..... coming in here, thinking you are gonna see my butt.

but here's a pic of another 4.10 carnage. Gears were setup well within tolerances (in fact, iirc the backlash was DEAD ON), there was no gear whine at all, under load or coasting, and the contact patch was near perfect. I have installed gears several times before, with no failures before now. This time around, I had my friend do them for me (as he is more experienced than I am, so I figured he would get it within tolerances a lot faster than me, which he did... we got it on the 2nd or 3rd try), but I was watching over his shoulder and I ok'ed everything before I put everything back together.

Needless to say, 12,000 miles later, with no drag radial or slick use....

HAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH

ok seriously....

Eric Baker · 10-12-2010, 07:47 PM

Holy crap!

What brand? What's the pinion look like? Just crazy.

mbrusco103 · 10-12-2010, 07:51 PM

Ohh man! Ouch :[

Ivas · 10-12-2010, 08:13 PM

You're right, I took a look at your post from between my fingers, not wanting to see what I feared might be there. What I did see is almost more pornographic: a differential in great distress. Bro' I really fill for ya'. I bought the 410's myself, but the delivery time was so damn slow that by the time they arrived I had already installed a Kenne Bell that obviated their use. I hope Richmond will do right by ya'.

Roger Ramjet · 10-12-2010, 08:47 PM

OBTW I have 4.10s too. The ring gear teeth are not fractured - more like ground off at the outer diameter. This looks like crush sleeve failure to me.

Many racers won't use crush sleeves because, if the sleeve yields, the pinnion could move up the ring gear. Using a full thickness bushing or a washer stack won't allow the pinnion to move.

GEEo · 10-12-2010, 08:51 PM

Dammmmn! thats sucks bro!

blackonblacksls · 10-12-2010, 08:54 PM

might try a solid pinion spacer.

danhr · 10-13-2010, 11:52 AM

yeah i'm a huge fan of solid pinion spacers. only one set of gears that I have done before this was a crush sleeve, and it was a PITA. Unfortunately, you get a regular crush sleeve from Richmond with the install kit. Beggars can't be choosers, I guess.

I will be going back to the stock 3.45 gears more than likely. I am sending these back to Richmond... either I get a refund or a new set of richmond 4.10s will be in the f/s section. haha.

GFORCE1320 · 10-14-2010, 09:26 PM

Oh man, that sucks!

I talked to my Motive gear rep last week and they should have Camaro gears out in a couple months.

Thanks
Chris @ Gforce

GQ4Life · 10-19-2010, 11:09 PM

couple of months so long

Slowhawk · 10-20-2010, 05:12 AM

Could be thw wrong crush sleeve. I've been doing gears for years and never had a problem with a crush sleeve. Solid is better but can be a pain to set up.

CamaroMiami · 10-20-2010, 06:03 AM

I want 4.10's for my LS3 as many others that have not purchased yet but,

this is scary for us that are not mechanically inclined and required reliability as well as performance.

GQ4Life · 10-20-2010, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroMiami

I want 4.10's for my LS3 as many others that have not purchased yet but,

this is scary for us that are not mechanically inclined and required reliability as well as performance.

Well if mine break there is something seriously wrong with them. I ride clutch out slowly. Everytime I launch. Except burnout box & that's in water

10-12-2010, 07:00 PM	#1
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,023	Who wants to see my rear?!?! bunch of pervs here on camaro5..... coming in here, thinking you are gonna see my butt. but here's a pic of another 4.10 carnage. Gears were setup well within tolerances (in fact, iirc the backlash was DEAD ON), there was no gear whine at all, under load or coasting, and the contact patch was near perfect. I have installed gears several times before, with no failures before now. This time around, I had my friend do them for me (as he is more experienced than I am, so I figured he would get it within tolerances a lot faster than me, which he did... we got it on the 2nd or 3rd try), but I was watching over his shoulder and I ok'ed everything before I put everything back together. Needless to say, 12,000 miles later, with no drag radial or slick use.... HAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH ok seriously.... __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

10-12-2010, 07:51 PM	#3
mbrusco103 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS (M6) 427 Twin Turbo Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 1,090 View My Garage	Ohh man! Ouch :[ __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS ERL 427 M6 TT -AGP Twin Turbo 55/57 .83ar \| ERL 427ci \| Squash Fuel System \| Stainless Works Chambered 3" \| Mcleod RXT \| Factory Hurst Short Throw \| Black Forgestar F14s \| CTS V 6 Piston Brembo \| VIS AMS Carbon Fiber Hood \| Anvil Carbon Fiber Spoiler

10-12-2010, 08:47 PM	#5
Roger Ramjet Motor Head Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: So MD Posts: 494	OBTW I have 4.10s too. The ring gear teeth are not fractured - more like ground off at the outer diameter. This looks like crush sleeve failure to me. Many racers won't use crush sleeves because, if the sleeve yields, the pinnion could move up the ring gear. Using a full thickness bushing or a washer stack won't allow the pinnion to move. __________________ History Camaro's: 83, 93, 95, 98, & 10. Last edited by Roger Ramjet; 10-12-2010 at 08:58 PM.

10-13-2010, 11:52 AM	#8
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,023	yeah i'm a huge fan of solid pinion spacers. only one set of gears that I have done before this was a crush sleeve, and it was a PITA. Unfortunately, you get a regular crush sleeve from Richmond with the install kit. Beggars can't be choosers, I guess. I will be going back to the stock 3.45 gears more than likely. I am sending these back to Richmond... either I get a refund or a new set of richmond 4.10s will be in the f/s section. haha. __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

10-19-2010, 11:09 PM	#10
GQ4Life Drives: 2010 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fishkill, NY Posts: 5,211 View My Garage	couple of months so long __________________ 2015 Corvette Z06.. Lime Rock Park 1:01; Watkins Glen 2:14; Thompson Speedway 1:21

10-12-2010, 07:47 PM	#2
Eric Baker Drives: Black/Black 2SS/RS 6M Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 987 View My Garage	Holy crap! What brand? What's the pinion look like? Just crazy.

10-12-2010, 08:13 PM	#4
Ivas el Ruco Drives: 2010 Camaro SS (now runnin' TENS ) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fontana, CA Posts: 7,388	You're right, I took a look at your post from between my fingers, not wanting to see what I feared might be there. What I did see is almost more pornographic: a differential in great distress. Bro' I really fill for ya'. I bought the 410's myself, but the delivery time was so damn slow that by the time they arrived I had already installed a Kenne Bell that obviated their use. I hope Richmond will do right by ya'.

10-12-2010, 08:51 PM	#6
GEEo OKCamaros Drives: 4 banger Diesel Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 4,572	Dammmmn! thats sucks bro!

10-12-2010, 08:54 PM	#7
blackonblacksls Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: houston Posts: 531	might try a solid pinion spacer.

10-14-2010, 09:26 PM	#9
GFORCE1320 Drives: 05 GTO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 1,243	Oh man, that sucks! I talked to my Motive gear rep last week and they should have Camaro gears out in a couple months. Thanks Chris @ Gforce

10-20-2010, 05:12 AM	#11
Slowhawk Drives: 1999 Trans Am Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgewater,Ma Posts: 2,017	Could be thw wrong crush sleeve. I've been doing gears for years and never had a problem with a crush sleeve. Solid is better but can be a pain to set up.

10-20-2010, 06:03 AM	#12
CamaroMiami Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS LS3, 92 Camaro RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Miami Posts: 531	I want 4.10's for my LS3 as many others that have not purchased yet but, this is scary for us that are not mechanically inclined and required reliability as well as performance.

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