Hurst Shifters: Do You Like the Nostalgic Look or Would You Like to See an Update? - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

patternpilot · 11-29-2017, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KROLIS

How about some of these?

I have this "Hard Drive Handle" only on the six speed. I have the ball as well but prefer this. My only complaint is it gets hot in the summer and my hand sticks to it from the cold in the winter. I made a leather slip cover that laces on for the cold.

cc-rider · 12-01-2017, 04:13 PM

For me...it was primarily the look. Truth is...the stock throw isn’t too bad. But first and foremost, it absolutely needs to function well. I had your shifter and had to take it out because it made 1-2 shifts grind like crazy. Put my stock shifter back in...everything went back to normal and clean shifts.

I also didn’t like the noise it made. Rattled like crazy.

Maybe you should make 2 versions...a smooth shifting quiet version for the look. And a short throw agreasive version for those who want to deal with the downsides of that.

Thank you for reaching out for some voice of customer! I really wish I could have kept my Hurst shifter in. And I hope you guys can come up with what I’m looking for.

O.F. · 12-01-2017, 05:35 PM

I bought one used from a forum member and for me, it is 99% form and 1% function (see pic in my profile album). I love the looks but I find function is notchy and quite sloppy. It already has the newer bushings but again used so who knows.....I get zero noise from it and it works okay so I'm keeping for now. I would buy in a minute a complete shift kit as some of your competitors are selling already and actually considering one myself. If only...

MiniBig · 12-02-2017, 07:00 AM

I love my Hurst shifter

Punisher_ATX · 12-04-2017, 10:19 AM

I liked the old school look but HATED the locking nut on the ball rubbing the inside of my fingers. Also i think the HURST snifter needs to come with the HD bushing kit out of the box not as an upgrade.

Smirnoff · 01-15-2018, 07:13 PM

Actually reply to support tickets (1+yr & still counting), remake the "white" t-handle, offer different size/version/bend "sticks", nylon bushings fix (offer or include brass @ NC), fix the excessive rattle under acceleration, re-engineer for smoother shifts (too hard/sloppy), do I need to keep going.....?

oldman14ss · 01-21-2018, 08:17 PM

I found an automatic hurst shifter at a swap meet and welded bolts on both ends with a t handle and I can shift easile

jmar3717 · 02-03-2018, 05:24 PM

For the Hurst people...can you describe the difference between the factory Hurst shifter in a 2011 AS and the aftermarket billet plus shifter?

2015Black1SS · 02-03-2018, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher_ATX

I liked the old school look but HATED the locking nut on the ball rubbing the inside of my fingers. Also i think the HURST snifter needs to come with the HD bushing kit out of the box not as an upgrade.

I second this statement.. why should we have to purchase the upgraded bushing kit ?? Basically you are telling us your product will not hold up and lacks quality as is... you're basically charging us for obsolescence ... also why don't you offer a pistol grip for the 5th gen but do so on the challenger , mustang, 6th gen ?????????

HurstPerformance · 02-06-2018, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.F.

I bought one used from a forum member and for me, it is 99% form and 1% function (see pic in my profile album). I love the looks but I find function is notchy and quite sloppy. It already has the newer bushings but again used so who knows.....I get zero noise from it and it works okay so I'm keeping for now. I would buy in a minute a complete shift kit as some of your competitors are selling already and actually considering one myself. If only...

We are sorry to hear that you are having issues even after installing the Pit Pack bushings. Give us a call at 707-544-4761 and we would be more than happy to help troubleshoot what is going on.

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Originally Posted by MiniBig

I love my Hurst shifter

We are glad to hear it! We appreciate your support.

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Originally Posted by Punisher_ATX

I liked the old school look but HATED the locking nut on the ball rubbing the inside of my fingers. Also i think the HURST snifter needs to come with the HD bushing kit out of the box not as an upgrade.

Thank you for taking the time to provide your feedback! In regards to the bushings, the reason we have not chosen to included them as the standard bushing is that majority of our customers have preferred the standard bushing. However, as there are some customers who are willing to trade NVH for performance we offer the Pit Pack kit separately.

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Originally Posted by Smirnoff

Actually reply to support tickets (1+yr & still counting), remake the "white" t-handle, offer different size/version/bend "sticks", nylon bushings fix (offer or include brass @ NC), fix the excessive rattle under acceleration, re-engineer for smoother shifts (too hard/sloppy), do I need to keep going.....?

We are very sorry to hear that you have been having issues contacting our Support Team. Shoot us a PM with your details and we will make sure someone gets in contact to help you.

In regards to sticks, we do offer a wide selection of Hurst Sticks that can be found here. As for the shift quality, depending on the use of your shifter, it is possible that the included bushings could be starting to wear causing a sloppy feeling. Those bushings can either be replaced with the standard bushings, or our Pit Pack Extreme Duty Bushings. However, as those bushings are constructed with a 303S stainless steel jacket and lined with polymer liner, there will be added NVH over the standard bushings. This is the reason we do not include them with the shifter as majority of our customer prefer the standard bushings.

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Originally Posted by 2015Black1SS

I second this statement.. why should we have to purchase the upgraded bushing kit ?? Basically you are telling us your product will not hold up and lacks quality as is... you're basically charging us for obsolescence ... also why don't you offer a pistol grip for the 5th gen but do so on the challenger , mustang, 6th gen ?????????

The reason for not using the same bushings found in our Pit Pack as the standard bushing is that the majority of our customers prefer a reduced NVH level. However, we understand there are some customers who would like to trade NVH for performance, which is what lead us to develop our Pit Pack.

Rest assured, we stand behind our shifters with a Lifetime Limited Warranty, meaning that you can enjoy your Billet/Plus shifter without any worries about getting the support you need should any issues arise.

As for the offering a Pistol Grip version of the shifter, we have only recently begun offering both the Classic Ball and Pistol Grip options for newer vehicles. Depending how high you are willing to have your shifter, you could replace the included stick with one of our Pistol Grip sticks.

acammer · 02-07-2018, 08:43 AM

Your competitors manage to make their shifters both precise and quiet, and you don't have to buy extra parts. I removed my Hurst Billet Two Plus as it had worn bushings and was very sloppy, made tons of noise, and would grind aggressive 1-2 up shifts. Went to the OEM shifter and all of those issues instantly resolved.

2010_camaro · 02-07-2018, 02:37 PM

I ran one in two different camaros. I hated how the bushings wore out so fast and even the "upgraded" ones wore out fast. The shifter always felt sloppy even knew. Ya it was a step up from stock.
I switch to MGW and the difference was massive.
I think the fact you all use the factory mount for the shifter is the big issue.
Also the stick was way to long. It did not feel like a short throw at all.

Dbunch9 · 02-07-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by acammer

Your competitors manage to make their shifters both precise and quiet, and you don't have to buy extra parts. I removed my Hurst Billet Two Plus as it had worn bushings and was very sloppy, made tons of noise, and would grind aggressive 1-2 up shifts. Went to the OEM shifter and all of those issues instantly resolved.

I second this as me and acammer have talked a few times about this shifter. We both had the same issues. Noisy, sloppy, almost impossible to quick shift on 1-2 and the other gears werent much more forgiving. I personally switched to the ZL1 shifter and although it didn't 100% resolve my problems, they got a solid 90% better. Just my 2 cents, the Hurst always looked good and I liked the short throw it just wasn't shifting well for me

HurstPerformance · 02-09-2018, 03:41 PM

Although it's not always what we like to hear, we do appreciate your feedback. Our 10-15 shifter was designed as a street/strip style unit with the primary goal of reducing shift throw as much as possible. Although other shifter characteristics were somewhat secondary in the 3916030 model, we used the feedback that we received from 5th gen shifter owners when designing our Billet/Plus shifter for the 2016+ Camaro. The additional "dogbone" section in our 6th gen unit increases isolation dramatically and makes for a much firmer and quieter unit overall. That being said, we have considered redesigning our 2010-2015 Billet/Plus shifter and incorporating this into the design, but this will of course increase the cost of the shifter. The competitor's shifter that was mentioned is a very nice unit, but it does come in at a considerably higher price point than our current offering which has always been quite popular and very affordable. We are open to putting together a sample shifter using the 6th gen isolated stick design and upgraded bushings to send out to a forum member for feedback. But, when all is said and done an updated 10-15 Hurst Billet/Plus shifter will cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 more than the existing Hurst 3916030 shifter and in order to move forward with production on an updated shifter, we would need 50 Camaro owners to step up and commit to a purchase. How many of you would be interested in an updated version of the Hurst Billet/Plus shifter?

12-02-2017, 07:00 AM	#18
MiniBig Drives: 2014 Z/28 #398 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Homewood Posts: 219	I love my Hurst shifter Attached Images

01-15-2018, 07:13 PM	#20
Smirnoff Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Motorcity Dragway Posts: 978	Actually reply to support tickets (1+yr & still counting), remake the "white" t-handle, offer different size/version/bend "sticks", nylon bushings fix (offer or include brass @ NC), fix the excessive rattle under acceleration, re-engineer for smoother shifts (too hard/sloppy), do I need to keep going.....? __________________ 11.90's w/headers, CAI, custom tune, slicks/skinnys, shifter & 100+ Ethyl. Last edited by Smirnoff; 01-15-2018 at 07:31 PM.

02-07-2018, 08:43 AM	#25
acammer GPI Sales Consultant Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS SGM Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Weedsport, NY Posts: 2,794 View My Garage	Your competitors manage to make their shifters both precise and quiet, and you don't have to buy extra parts. I removed my Hurst Billet Two Plus as it had worn bushings and was very sloppy, made tons of noise, and would grind aggressive 1-2 up shifts. Went to the OEM shifter and all of those issues instantly resolved. __________________ GPI Max Package 2.0: Brodix BR7 heads/GPI porting, MAX3 cam, ST2116LSR, BSR Max Lift rockers, LS7 LSXR with 103mm TB, Vararam OTR, Mcleod RXT, G-Force/Strange 9" IRS setup with 4.63 gear. 551whp, 11.1@124mph. *Got a question about a GPI product? Feel free to shoot me a message!*

02-07-2018, 02:37 PM	#26
2010_camaro Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 2,238 View My Garage	I ran one in two different camaros. I hated how the bushings wore out so fast and even the "upgraded" ones wore out fast. The shifter always felt sloppy even knew. Ya it was a step up from stock. I switch to MGW and the difference was massive. I think the fact you all use the factory mount for the shifter is the big issue. Also the stick was way to long. It did not feel like a short throw at all. __________________ MODS 6.0 forged iron block, TH400, B&M shifter, DSS axles & driveshaft, Viking / BMR suspension, Full custom fuel system with cell, Twin 76mm teriyaki tornados on 24lbs. https://www.instagram.com/whoopa_ss/

12-01-2017, 04:13 PM	#16
cc-rider Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,172	For me...it was primarily the look. Truth is...the stock throw isn’t too bad. But first and foremost, it absolutely needs to function well. I had your shifter and had to take it out because it made 1-2 shifts grind like crazy. Put my stock shifter back in...everything went back to normal and clean shifts. I also didn’t like the noise it made. Rattled like crazy. Maybe you should make 2 versions...a smooth shifting quiet version for the look. And a short throw agreasive version for those who want to deal with the downsides of that. Thank you for reaching out for some voice of customer! I really wish I could have kept my Hurst shifter in. And I hope you guys can come up with what I’m looking for.

12-01-2017, 05:35 PM	#17
O.F. Drives: 2015 BLK/BLK 2SS/RS MN6 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Hampshuh Posts: 266	I bought one used from a forum member and for me, it is 99% form and 1% function (see pic in my profile album). I love the looks but I find function is notchy and quite sloppy. It already has the newer bushings but again used so who knows.....I get zero noise from it and it works okay so I'm keeping for now. I would buy in a minute a complete shift kit as some of your competitors are selling already and actually considering one myself. If only...

12-04-2017, 10:19 AM	#19
Punisher_ATX Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Austin Posts: 439	I liked the old school look but HATED the locking nut on the ball rubbing the inside of my fingers. Also i think the HURST snifter needs to come with the HD bushing kit out of the box not as an upgrade.

01-21-2018, 08:17 PM	#21
oldman14ss Drives: 2014 1ss camaro Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: missouri Posts: 705	I found an automatic hurst shifter at a swap meet and welded bolts on both ends with a t handle and I can shift easile

02-03-2018, 05:24 PM	#22
jmar3717 Drives: 2011 Victory Red 2SS Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Indiana Posts: 9 View My Garage	For the Hurst people...can you describe the difference between the factory Hurst shifter in a 2011 AS and the aftermarket billet plus shifter?

02-09-2018, 03:41 PM	#28
HurstPerformance Drives: 2013 Camaro SS and 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 541	Although it's not always what we like to hear, we do appreciate your feedback. Our 10-15 shifter was designed as a street/strip style unit with the primary goal of reducing shift throw as much as possible. Although other shifter characteristics were somewhat secondary in the 3916030 model, we used the feedback that we received from 5th gen shifter owners when designing our Billet/Plus shifter for the 2016+ Camaro. The additional "dogbone" section in our 6th gen unit increases isolation dramatically and makes for a much firmer and quieter unit overall. That being said, we have considered redesigning our 2010-2015 Billet/Plus shifter and incorporating this into the design, but this will of course increase the cost of the shifter. The competitor's shifter that was mentioned is a very nice unit, but it does come in at a considerably higher price point than our current offering which has always been quite popular and very affordable. We are open to putting together a sample shifter using the 6th gen isolated stick design and upgraded bushings to send out to a forum member for feedback. But, when all is said and done an updated 10-15 Hurst Billet/Plus shifter will cost somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 more than the existing Hurst 3916030 shifter and in order to move forward with production on an updated shifter, we would need 50 Camaro owners to step up and commit to a purchase. How many of you would be interested in an updated version of the Hurst Billet/Plus shifter?