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EDFHOBBIES · 11-11-2014, 08:10 AM

Does the motor have to be lifted up a few inches to slide the front sway bars in/out on all bars? Or if the car is on the lift with tires off can it be slid through?

Tmick5jr · 11-11-2014, 08:21 AM

what do the directions say..

EDFHOBBIES · 11-11-2014, 09:14 AM

NO idea I haven't bought any yet just planning ahead..

Superfly1 · 11-11-2014, 09:23 AM

I replaced my V6 ones with SS bars and I was able to get them in & out. It takes a little work to get the right angle and everything, but it can be done.

BMR Sales · 11-11-2014, 09:34 AM

Lifting the engine a couple inches does make it easier. Supposedly, it can be done without lifting the engine, but will probably save a few thrown tools and cuss words if you do!!!

PAUL SS · 11-11-2014, 10:04 AM

I installed mine (BMR) in a confined space with only the car jacked up and the front wheels off. No swearing or tool tossing required.

Dexman1349 · 11-11-2014, 10:26 AM

It's possible, but very difficult. To lift the motor, you only have to loosen a couple of bolts (you don't have to completely remove them), that way you can drop it back to where it was without any motor/trans/driveshaft alignment issues.

Loosen them all the way, then put them back in with a 1/2 twist to hold them in place. Then lift the engine. Should give you the extra couple of inches to make it go a lot smoother/easier.

Similar scenario with the rear bar vs the exhaust. You can swap the bar without touching the exhaust, but removing the axle-back makes things a lot easier.

Taco Time · 11-11-2014, 10:27 AM

Here's some instructions. There are likely also a couple YouTube videos available. That's what I used for my lowering springs.

http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...sway-sb030.htm

TECHTURTLE · 11-11-2014, 11:43 AM

I did not have to lift my motor.. It was a bit of a pain, but I was able to twist the new one back in after a few F-bombs.

CHMSC · 11-11-2014, 11:59 AM

I installed the rear Pfadt bar no problems. After a few cuss words I raised the motor up a tad made life a lot easier. It really depends on the size of the bar you get. The stock one came out fine the thick PFADT did not want to go in easily.

hammdo · 11-11-2014, 12:55 PM

I did mine. Jack stands, tires off, and raised the engine. 30 minutes to get it out and in. It's no big deal to raise the engine. Just a couple of inches and you're good. Do support the raised engine though...

-Don

JDP Sales · 11-11-2014, 01:01 PM

Save yourself some time, trouble, cuss words and scratches on your new sway bar and just lift the engine up a little bit. In this case trying to skip labor ends up in additional labor.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

kjkjr27 · 11-11-2014, 01:07 PM

I just took off the pass wheel. Took longer to remove the stock bar than it did to install my thicker LSR one

rick_coors · 11-11-2014, 01:17 PM

As already stated, it will depend on the bar. I've installed two different sets of Pfadt bars, only the ZL1 spec bars needed the motor raised. Loosen the motor mount bolts on the bottom of the frame and using a screw jack you can lift the motor up gently. The jack I used had a large rubber base to cushion and I used a lift for the car. Right tire comes off and away you go.

11-11-2014, 08:10 AM	#1
EDFHOBBIES Dyno Show Queen LOL Drives: 16 SS & 17 ZL1 Both Yellow Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 4,345 View My Garage	Sway bar install question? Does the motor have to be lifted up a few inches to slide the front sway bars in/out on all bars? Or if the car is on the lift with tires off can it be slid through? __________________ Kong Ported 2650, Crawford Racing Port Injection, Weapon X 112mm Adapter, NW112mm TB, Livernois Ported LT4 Heads, Lingenfelter GT32 stealth cam, Haltech Elite, and Carbon by Trufiber

11-11-2014, 09:14 AM	#3
EDFHOBBIES Dyno Show Queen LOL Drives: 16 SS & 17 ZL1 Both Yellow Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 4,345 View My Garage	NO idea I haven't bought any yet just planning ahead.. __________________ Kong Ported 2650, Crawford Racing Port Injection, Weapon X 112mm Adapter, NW112mm TB, Livernois Ported LT4 Heads, Lingenfelter GT32 stealth cam, Haltech Elite, and Carbon by Trufiber

11-11-2014, 09:23 AM	#4
Superfly1 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT #2197 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 916 View My Garage	I replaced my V6 ones with SS bars and I was able to get them in & out. It takes a little work to get the right angle and everything, but it can be done. __________________ CAI intake \| OBX LT Headers \| Flowmaster AT Exhaust \| Trifecta Tune \| SS Rear Diff, Axles & Driveshaft Zex 100 Shot Nitrous \| Konig Airstrike Wheels \| Custom Engine Cover, Fuse Box & Underhood Bowtie Eibach Springs & SS Sway Bars \| BMR Strut Brace \| Drake Shifter \| Vitesse Paddles \| 13.26 @ 105.88 mph

11-11-2014, 10:04 AM	#6
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	I installed mine (BMR) in a confined space with only the car jacked up and the front wheels off. No swearing or tool tossing required. __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

11-11-2014, 10:26 AM	#7
Dexman1349 2010 2SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 1,482	It's possible, but very difficult. To lift the motor, you only have to loosen a couple of bolts (you don't have to completely remove them), that way you can drop it back to where it was without any motor/trans/driveshaft alignment issues. Loosen them all the way, then put them back in with a 1/2 twist to hold them in place. Then lift the engine. Should give you the extra couple of inches to make it go a lot smoother/easier. Similar scenario with the rear bar vs the exhaust. You can swap the bar without touching the exhaust, but removing the axle-back makes things a lot easier. __________________ 2/7/2014: 419 hp, 419 tq Cosmetic: ZL1 front w/mailslot, painted stripes, powdercoated SS rims, tow hook, and full chrome delete Suspension: Pfadt subframe bushings, Pfadt rear UCA bushings, Z28 Upper control arms, Spohn trailing arms with BMR trailing arm & differential bushings, ZL1 Toe Rods and springs, Prothane radius arm inserts & steering rack bushing, Pfadt Sport front sway, FE4 conversion w/ DS rear sway, Pfadt strut brace Drivetrain: RMCR tune, CAI intake, Kooks headers, hi-flo cats & exhaust, VMAX TB, ZL1 fuel pump, LSR Tri-Ax shifter Bumblebee Racecar Build

11-11-2014, 08:21 AM	#2
Tmick5jr Todd Drives: 2012 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,669 View My Garage	what do the directions say..

11-11-2014, 09:34 AM	#5
BMR Sales Drives: Race Car Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Seffner, FL Posts: 6,226	Lifting the engine a couple inches does make it easier. Supposedly, it can be done without lifting the engine, but will probably save a few thrown tools and cuss words if you do!!!

11-11-2014, 10:27 AM	#8
Taco Time Drives: 2014 1SS Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Angleton, TX Posts: 1,339 View My Garage	Here's some instructions. There are likely also a couple YouTube videos available. That's what I used for my lowering springs. http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...sway-sb030.htm __________________ Taco's 2014 SS Mods: 417 Stroker \| CAI \| Bo's PTB \| Kooks LTs \| Flowmaster Outlaw Catback \| Night Fury Cam \| Powerbond UDP \| Apex Catch Can \|PRC Ported Heads \|FAST 102 Intake \|Suspension Crap\| Built by J-Rod.

11-11-2014, 11:43 AM	#9
TECHTURTLE Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: OTP Atlanta Posts: 862 View My Garage	I did not have to lift my motor.. It was a bit of a pain, but I was able to twist the new one back in after a few F-bombs. __________________ 2016 2SS 6-Speed Manual... Magnetic Ride Control, Dual Mode Exhaust, Sunroof, Adrenaline Red Interior, Mylink W/Navigation Added Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger, GM 1LE Sway Bars, BMR Upper/Lower Trailing Arms, BMR Upper Control Arms. BMR Front/Rear Chassis Braces, BMR Tunnel Brace. GM Red knee Pads, GM Black Front Splitter, GM SEMA Concept Grille, GM Dark Taillights, GM Ground Effects package... Savini Di Forza BM-14 Gloss Black Wheels 9's front, 10's rear.

11-11-2014, 11:59 AM	#10
CHMSC ROAD COURSE JUNKIE Drives: 2012 SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Somewhere Posts: 4,868 View My Garage	I installed the rear Pfadt bar no problems. After a few cuss words I raised the motor up a tad made life a lot easier. It really depends on the size of the bar you get. The stock one came out fine the thick PFADT did not want to go in easily. __________________

11-11-2014, 12:55 PM	#11
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	I did mine. Jack stands, tires off, and raised the engine. 30 minutes to get it out and in. It's no big deal to raise the engine. Just a couple of inches and you're good. Do support the raised engine though... -Don

11-11-2014, 01:01 PM	#12
JDP Sales Drives: Chevys at the limit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 9,621	Save yourself some time, trouble, cuss words and scratches on your new sway bar and just lift the engine up a little bit. In this case trying to skip labor ends up in additional labor. Best regards, Tyler 888-308-6007

11-11-2014, 01:07 PM	#13
kjkjr27 COTW 9/16/13 Drives: 2011 2LT/RS Camaro IOM Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Syracuse Posts: 10,089	I just took off the pass wheel. Took longer to remove the stock bar than it did to install my thicker LSR one __________________ Twitch Youtube

11-11-2014, 01:17 PM	#14
rick_coors Drives: 2010 IBM SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CA USA Posts: 6	As already stated, it will depend on the bar. I've installed two different sets of Pfadt bars, only the ZL1 spec bars needed the motor raised. Loosen the motor mount bolts on the bottom of the frame and using a screw jack you can lift the motor up gently. The jack I used had a large rubber base to cushion and I used a lift for the car. Right tire comes off and away you go.