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Old 07-09-2012, 06:09 PM   #57
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Hi !

from my experiance with roots blowers i can note :

in my personal opinion ... Roots blower need boost control with bypass-valve when used at high compression NA engines , to keep the boost low at low to medium engine speeds up to 4500 RPM , i dont like weak stock conrods looking out of the block !

the centrifugal charger like Vortech-V3 is doing exact this boost curve without external boost control !!

So for an build engine with rods and pistons the roots charger is the better option for low end tourqe and higher power !

Roots blowers without integrated intercoolers get high chargtemps , not good for power !

Installation is a bit tricky for external heat exchanger , water lines and waterpumps , also a + point for the Vortech Centrifugal Charger , here you can use a simple air to air intercooler in the front !

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Old 07-09-2012, 07:24 PM   #58
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:15 PM   #59
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Hi !

do a full load run gear 1-6 and your chargetemp will rise to the moon !

im sorry , but only at part load ***** driving the aircon had enough capacity to cool down the intake temps below ambient temp !

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Old 07-09-2012, 09:15 PM   #60
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you just run the Super Chiller.......trust me I have one on my Maggie and my temps don't see 130* on a 0-140mph run on a 95* day.
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:02 PM   #61
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Old 07-10-2012, 12:46 PM   #62
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Hello !

Im sorry , but the sense in the information in my reply was not easy to catch !

The Chiller is working here in the US .. with speedlimits !

We live in Germany .. and in Germany there is NO GENERAL SPEEDLIMIT !

So i can do a power run from standstill 1-6 gear and drive 30min full load at TOP Speed over 190MPH !!!

in this situation ... im sorry to tell you ... the chiller will not work !!

that is all i wanted to explain ... not less or more !

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Old 07-10-2012, 01:27 PM   #63
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Hello !

Im sorry , but the sense in the information in my reply was not easy to catch !

The Chiller is working here in the US .. with speedlimits !

We live in Germany .. and in Germany there is NO GENERAL SPEEDLIMIT !

So i can do a power run from standstill 1-6 gear and drive 30min full load at TOP Speed over 190MPH !!!

in this situation ... im sorry to tell you ... the chiller will not work !!

that is all i wanted to explain ... not less or more !

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Go ahead and do that on a bottom end that isn't forged with FI and see how long that lasts.......I bet it won't be 30 min.... lol
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So I guess the Texas mile is out of the question. only a mile
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:14 PM   #65
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more like the "texas 30 mile" is out of the question. Does anyone think a stock camaro can take being at full throttle for 30 minutes straight?

Tracy, if you don't have a donor car for the twin screw setup by next March, i'm in!
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more like the "texas 30 mile" is out of the question. Does anyone think a stock camaro can take being at full throttle for 30 minutes straight?

Tracy, if you don't have a donor car for the twin screw setup by next March, i'm in!
Stock Camaro or Stock engine with FI? With sensible boost I think it should be able to handle 30 minutes...

You want to see some insane testing watch this... sorry, I know... Ford EcoBoost.... BUT the LLT is actually pretty similar to the EcoBoost, without the turbos... These Ford torture tests are what made me feel better about tuning the Flex...

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Stock Camaro or Stock engine with FI? With sensible boost I think it should be able to handle 30 minutes...

You want to see some insane testing watch this... sorry, I know... Ford EcoBoost.... BUT the LLT is actually pretty similar to the EcoBoost, without the turbos... These Ford torture tests are what made me feel better about tuning the Flex...

That engine was built for boost IE forged and designed that way for a reason.
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That engine was built for boost IE forged and designed that way for a reason.
Read the specs on the LLT... very similar... Looking at the specs off the LLT you would think it was built for boost too!
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Read the specs on the LLT... very similar... Looking at the specs off the LLT you would think it was built for boost too!
Exactly. Only thing is we run higher CR than you guys do. Other than that, very similar design.
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