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Old 02-14-2015, 08:22 PM   #1
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KONY YELLOWS are here

Just checked out TireRack and saw these http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...utoModClar=1SS.
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Old 02-14-2015, 09:20 PM   #2
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With the 1LE and DSSV struts available from GM, why are these of interest?
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Old 02-15-2015, 08:57 AM   #3
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With the 1LE and DSSV struts available from GM, why are these of interest?
I had the 1LE struts and they honestly don't feel of quality and the oil contents made the struts feel cheap, made that sound like the oil would easily foam up with heavy use. The Z28 pieces aren't available unless bought with the whole suspension kit so these fit in where some may not need coilovers but want better than 1LE performance. Gen 4 Camaro owners I met told me they liked Koni Yellows a lot on track plus they have levels of adjustments , 3 I think. If the z28 pieces are available as just shocks and struts let me know.
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Old 02-15-2015, 01:57 PM   #4
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I think the Koni may offer an option to those who do not want/afford coilovers, BUT ONLY if they offer an advantage over the OE 1LE struts. I had the single adjustable (rebound) yellow Konis on my 4TH gen '95 with Eibach then Strano springs and they worked great. There also was the double adjustable which added compression adjustability. Both sets were beyond just 3 levels of adjustability, could adjust to any point within the soft and stiff limits.

From what I have read the Z/28 springs are quite a bit stiffer so the Z/28 strut/springs may be too much for some. And if the Z/28 struts were available alone, would they even be feasable with a softer spring?
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Old 02-15-2015, 03:33 PM   #5
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Just checked out TireRack and saw these http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...utoModClar=1SS.
And how many different setups have you gone though now? Lol
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:51 PM   #6
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And how many different setups have you gone though now? Lol
Damn didn't someone steal your ZL-1.
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:54 PM   #7
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I think the Koni may offer an option to those who do not want/afford coilovers, BUT ONLY if they offer an advantage over the OE 1LE struts. I had the single adjustable (rebound) yellow Konis on my 4TH gen '95 with Eibach then Strano springs and they worked great. There also was the double adjustable which added compression adjustability. Both sets were beyond just 3 levels of adjustability, could adjust to any point within the soft and stiff limits.

From what I have read the Z/28 springs are quite a bit stiffer so the Z/28 strut/springs may be too much for some. And if the Z/28 struts were available alone, would they even be feasable with a softer spring?
Softer spring works the strut/shock more, not a good idea. I have the Z28 spring on the rear of my Bilstein Pss10 kit and it works great. Feels like I need to go back to the BMR rear sway bar which is a bit softer than the DSE rear bar.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:12 AM   #8
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For the price of those Koni Yellows, you could spend 600 more bucks and have the entire 1LE setup, minus wheels/tires of course.
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It's about time! These have been long awaited.

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Old 02-16-2015, 05:58 PM   #10
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Coilovers, $2100 for Ridetechs
Apex/Pfadt springs $200 + Konis $900=$1100

Many advantages to the Ridetechs vs lowering spings.
That $1000 saved can be used for camber plates.
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Old 02-16-2015, 06:09 PM   #11
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I'd like to see someone with a shock dyno back-to-back compare the following, new out of the box.

-OE SS struts

-OE 1LE struts

-OE Z/28 struts

-Koni Oranges

-Koni Yellows (on each adjustment)

that way if you want more damping, but don't want to go to coilovers, you really know what you're options are. You could run a good set of struts with a stiffer set of springs, and JusticePete's knuckles, and have a good, consistent setup that behaves with the OE geometry.
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:01 PM   #12
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At $1100 for springs and shocks . Just go with BC coilovers @ that point ! Right ??
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I went to track with both 1LE shocks, and then Z/28 setup on my 1LE, and both performed admirably. I ended up doing 1:58.2 with 1LE shocks, and 1:57.2 with Z/28 shocks. I bet the gap would widen with R-compound tires, but I never felt under-dampened at the track with 1LE shocks. Keep in mind, they are monotube unlike standard SS suspension.
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Old 02-16-2015, 07:17 PM   #14
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At $1100 for springs and shocks . Just go with BC coilovers @ that point ! Right ??
Exactly what I was thinking too?? and Megan Racings are $900. with 32 levels of adjustments.
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