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Old 10-04-2015, 06:05 PM   #1
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ZL1 vs LS3 bolt on

So yesterday I had the chance to run most of the day with a few stockish ZL1s and just playing around they didn't pull away from me if at all.. I was kinda surprised (pleasantly)
I am full exhaust no cats, vararam, Hurst shifter and 3.91s all tuned.. bone stock LS3
doesn't seem right to me.. anyone else have this experience..
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Old 10-04-2015, 07:07 PM   #2
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Yes sir I pulled on them when I was just bolt ons. I haven't raced one now that I'm cammed
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Old 10-04-2015, 11:14 PM   #3
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Yes sir I pulled on them when I was just bolt ons. I haven't raced one now that I'm cammed
Unless one of your bolt-ons was nitrous, I see that win being the lack of your opponents driver skill, not the ability of the car. Assuming you had headers its roughly 400whp vs 500whp for the Zl1.
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Old 10-05-2015, 12:12 AM   #4
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I agree because I've raced the Caddy version and they still pull me top end, not as bad, but they still get the win.
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Old 10-05-2015, 12:23 AM   #5
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Unless one of your bolt-ons was nitrous, I see that win being the lack of your opponents driver skill, not the ability of the car. Assuming you had headers its roughly 400whp vs 500whp for the Zl1.
If I had a 100 shot I would have crushed them.. I guess it's the 300-400 lbs less, higher red line and much more aggressive gear combination. I didn't pull away but I sure didn't fall behind ether.. still it didn't seam like it should have been that close but it was over and over again he didn't pull on me??
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Old 10-05-2015, 12:28 AM   #6
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I agree because I've raced the Caddy version and they still pull me top end, not as bad, but they still get the win.
3.91s?
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Old 10-05-2015, 02:15 AM   #7
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I was surprised when I beat a convertible zl1 with maybe just an exhaust from a roll(I think around 20 or 30 to around 80 90ish before I had to turn right while he went straight) and not by much though. Yes, he was definitely flooring it, I could hear the exhaust screaming. Still would love to have one! Lol. oh and this was on the streets of Mexico of course...
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Unless one of your bolt-ons was nitrous, I see that win being the lack of your opponents driver skill, not the ability of the car. Assuming you had headers its roughly 400whp vs 500whp for the Zl1.
Say what you want but I know what happened and no, no nitrous here. It wasn't just 1 z its been like 4. Since I'm no professional driver can't say it was driver skill
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Same day, track and +90° Temps
Bolt on SS (413 dynojet) vs cai zl1
112 vs 116 mph traps .
The mph should give you a idea of how a zl1 *should* pull away from you .
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3.91s?
No, 556bhp vs my roughly 465ish. They simply have more power. Don't get me wrong, I am very impressed with how my car pulls with bolt-ons, but I know I will need more to be able to stick side by side or walk the LSA equipped cars.
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Shoulda coulda woulda. Didn't happen though. I'm not saying they won't but they haven't. Look at the fast list for both cars the zl1 is as low as 113mph and a bolt on as high as 119mph. Every car is different.

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Old 10-05-2015, 11:26 PM   #13
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Same day, track and +90° Temps
Bolt on SS (413 dynojet) vs cai zl1
112 vs 116 mph traps .
The mph should give you a idea of how a zl1 *should* pull away from you .

That's way to close of a race. if I had a ZL1 I would be bummed out knowing that a SS with a few extras and good driver could nose me out a decent percentage of the time.
I don't even know if the dude I was running was stock or not. I will assume so though.
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Old 10-06-2015, 08:56 AM   #14
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That's way to close of a race. if I had a ZL1 I would be bummed out knowing that a SS with a few extras and good driver could nose me out a decent percentage of the time.
I don't even know if the dude I was running was stock or not. I will assume so though.
4 mph is 4 car lengths +/-
Both cars were getting 2.0-2.2 60's (we both sucked)
The Zl1/CAI ran the best of 12.6 @116 iirc , by the 4th run it fell to 12.8 @113 mph .
My SS ran constant 111-112 mph , best 13.0@112 mph .
So if you look at the Zl1 SLOWEST heat soaked run and the FASTEST bolt on SS run it was close.

*D.A. would have dropped the times down by .3 and 2-3 more mph*

The guy did sell his car soon after , so did I lol.
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