TSP Headers Clearance Problem...eventually fixed... - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

RedRyder · 07-31-2011, 01:07 PM

I had Texas Speed's 1 7/8" headers with no cats installed to pair with my Flowmaster AMT catback about a month back and ever since I've had a small rattling problem. It's not the typical tunnel brace issue but instead the passenger side header was hitting the frame rail

It would only happen when I make left turns, veer left, and sometimes braking downhill.

Upon further inspection it looked like the header was almost sitting on the frame (maybe 1/16-1/8" clearance). I contacted Jason at TSP and he asked me some questions which I answered but then I never heard from him after

So, I brought it to the friendly folks at Vengeance Racing and they were able to open up the clearance to nearly half an inch using a pry bar, some heat, and brute force and the rattling went away.

Just wanted to give a heads up in case anyone else sees this issue.

sschevybear11 · 07-31-2011, 02:18 PM

Just getting ready to order these, dosent make me happy.

Pollock · 07-31-2011, 02:22 PM

Ya get what you pay for sometimes.

Parapdrapa · 07-31-2011, 02:25 PM

Ss, atleast from a component install mine were more than perfect. I did have to grind a few ugly welds, as I said before, I would gladly grind a few cosmetically ugly welds and save 500+. U should be fine. Tsp stuff has served me well. I am installing a cam and pulley from them tomorrow on top of the tsp cai. I generally like their products I just wish they would send me my tshirt already!

ClutchKargo · 07-31-2011, 02:40 PM

Mine had to be dimpled as well on install because they were right up againist the frame as you explain.

I only have about a 1/8" clearance right now and they do rub on a left turn and still need to be dimpled more so the rattle goes away.

Other than that I love my new headers and the sound is awesome. Mine are coupled with a Solo Mach XL and J-Pipes.

Awesome setup!!

RedRyder · 07-31-2011, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollock

Ya get what you pay for sometimes.

In the end I got way more than what I paid for comparatively. Awesome sound, awesome power, and from what I understand many others don't see this problem.

All in all it wasn't even that much of a hassle to fix.

Jason 98 TA · 08-01-2011, 02:09 PM

Glad to hear your up & running with good results. We haven't had any people other than RedRyder complain of hitting in this area. Out of nearly 100 sets sold I think these things are doing very well.

SSlim · 07-02-2014, 08:29 AM

I have the same problem on my with 2" header hitting frame on pass side. Driving me nuts. Guess I will try to pull it off this weekend and dimple it.

dino2012ls3 · 07-02-2014, 03:03 PM

At first mine didn't rattle and then all of a sudden it started making all kinds of noise at the same spot. And we fixed it the same way. It only cost a case of beer to fix, so I'm still ahead money wise.

WEISHAAR37 · 07-03-2014, 03:03 AM

I have the TSP 2" headers and have no clearance issues whatsoever. from everything i have read your problem is most likely stemming from the factory engine mount tolerances. loosen up the mounts, shift the motor over slightly and re tighten. i would do this long before i dimpled my headers. hope this helps someone!

62nalide · 07-03-2014, 09:25 AM

I know about 4 local guys that had no problems at all.

Dexter9522 · 07-03-2014, 09:38 PM

One year and zero issues. Your engine was probably just off a bit. Loosen motor mounts slide it over and re tighten. The factory has specs that the engine needs to meet. Not everyone is in the exact same location which is why some have issues and some don't. You get what you pay for isn't the case here. Kooks, SP p fadt all expensive brands, do a search and will find someone somewhere bit***** that their headers are defective and are hitting. Your car was prolly assembled on a Friday

lou36 · 07-07-2014, 03:58 PM

i had the same problem it was barley clearing the frame on the passenger side and would make that annoying rattling sometimes at a stop. dimpled it with a pry bar and a little heat. love the way it sounds well worth the price.

Fast6.3 · 07-08-2014, 11:17 PM

I got the tsp 2" and they rubbed on the passenger side frame rail and on the steering knuckle. Had to dimple two tubes on the drivers side and one on the passengerside. Other than that I think they are great. Have also heard not everyone has clearance problems so I attribute this to gm assembly tolerances. Im extremely happy with the tsp product its a great product.

07-31-2011, 01:07 PM	#1
RedRyder Drives: 2010 VR 2SS/RS M6 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 499 View My Garage	TSP Headers Clearance Problem...eventually fixed... I had Texas Speed's 1 7/8" headers with no cats installed to pair with my Flowmaster AMT catback about a month back and ever since I've had a small rattling problem. It's not the typical tunnel brace issue but instead the passenger side header was hitting the frame rail It would only happen when I make left turns, veer left, and sometimes braking downhill. Upon further inspection it looked like the header was almost sitting on the frame (maybe 1/16-1/8" clearance). I contacted Jason at TSP and he asked me some questions which I answered but then I never heard from him after So, I brought it to the friendly folks at Vengeance Racing and they were able to open up the clearance to nearly half an inch using a pry bar, some heat, and brute force and the rattling went away. Just wanted to give a heads up in case anyone else sees this issue.

07-31-2011, 02:18 PM	#2
sschevybear11 Drives: 2011 Black 1SS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: moline,il Posts: 504 View My Garage	Just getting ready to order these, dosent make me happy. __________________ 2011 Black 1SS M6 12.75@110.91 bone stock Now: Coated Dynatech LT's/!Cats/Hurst Shifter/Roto-fab/SLP SS badges/JRE 415HP Tune, Scoop & Washer Relocation Bottle,Hurst Stunner 20X9 Wheels, Moroso Catch Can, ASP pulley, Magnaflow X-pipe, GTO remote clutch reservoir 1989 Silver 5.0 Mustang LX Coupe 1999 Pewter Tahoe LT 2011 Blue Camry SE

07-31-2011, 02:40 PM	#5
ClutchKargo Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 RJT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Knoxville Posts: 211	Mine had to be dimpled as well on install because they were right up againist the frame as you explain. I only have about a 1/8" clearance right now and they do rub on a left turn and still need to be dimpled more so the rattle goes away. Other than that I love my new headers and the sound is awesome. Mine are coupled with a Solo Mach XL and J-Pipes. Awesome setup!! __________________ Solo Mach XL CatBack w/ J Pipe - Texas Speed LT Headers - 3M Nano-Carbon Polyester Tint 20% - 3M Crystalline 90% Tint on Windshield - Azentek Smart Mirror w/Back up Camera - CAI Intake - ADM Scoop - APEX Washer Tank Kit - PowderPro Ported & Polished TB

07-02-2014, 08:29 AM	#8
SSlim Drives: 2011 Cyber Grey 1SS/RS A6 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Needville TX Posts: 228	I have the same problem on my with 2" header hitting frame on pass side. Driving me nuts. Guess I will try to pull it off this weekend and dimple it. __________________ Whipple, GT9 cam, LS3 conversion, ZL1 pistons, ZL1 rods, Circle D converter, Stage 3 trans, Tuned by Pat G, CAI inc, TPS headers, posi mod, Dynomax bullet cat back, VMAX TB, ADM Scoop, RX catch can, Eibach prokit plus, Eurotek Mesh 33 wheels, P13w DRLs, Pioneer/Massive Audio/Vibe/JL interior goodies. 613 RWHP/596 TQ

07-03-2014, 09:25 AM	#11
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	I know about 4 local guys that had no problems at all. __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

07-31-2011, 02:22 PM	#3
Pollock LT4 M6 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bloomington, IN Posts: 1,249	Ya get what you pay for sometimes.

07-31-2011, 02:25 PM	#4
Parapdrapa Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NC Posts: 174	Ss, atleast from a component install mine were more than perfect. I did have to grind a few ugly welds, as I said before, I would gladly grind a few cosmetically ugly welds and save 500+. U should be fine. Tsp stuff has served me well. I am installing a cam and pulley from them tomorrow on top of the tsp cai. I generally like their products I just wish they would send me my tshirt already!

08-01-2011, 02:09 PM	#7
Jason 98 TA Drives: Camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,669	Glad to hear your up & running with good results. We haven't had any people other than RedRyder complain of hitting in this area. Out of nearly 100 sets sold I think these things are doing very well.

07-02-2014, 03:03 PM	#9
dino2012ls3 Drives: 2012 ls3 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: humble Posts: 113	At first mine didn't rattle and then all of a sudden it started making all kinds of noise at the same spot. And we fixed it the same way. It only cost a case of beer to fix, so I'm still ahead money wise.

07-03-2014, 03:03 AM	#10
WEISHAAR37 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Jacksonville AR Posts: 93 View My Garage	I have the TSP 2" headers and have no clearance issues whatsoever. from everything i have read your problem is most likely stemming from the factory engine mount tolerances. loosen up the mounts, shift the motor over slightly and re tighten. i would do this long before i dimpled my headers. hope this helps someone!

07-03-2014, 09:38 PM	#12
Dexter9522 Drives: SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: Az Posts: 273	One year and zero issues. Your engine was probably just off a bit. Loosen motor mounts slide it over and re tighten. The factory has specs that the engine needs to meet. Not everyone is in the exact same location which is why some have issues and some don't. You get what you pay for isn't the case here. Kooks, SP p fadt all expensive brands, do a search and will find someone somewhere bit***** that their headers are defective and are hitting. Your car was prolly assembled on a Friday __________________ 2013 ss M6 471 / 428 adm intake / texas speed 1 7/8 long tubes no cats / npp / slp underdive pulley / cordes performance defibrillator cam / ported throttle body, intake manifold by CPR tuning by nic D

07-07-2014, 03:58 PM	#13
lou36 Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: May 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 36	i had the same problem it was barley clearing the frame on the passenger side and would make that annoying rattling sometimes at a stop. dimpled it with a pry bar and a little heat. love the way it sounds well worth the price.

07-08-2014, 11:17 PM	#14
Fast6.3 Drives: 2016 2SS coupe 2015 3LT Stingray Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: El paso texas Posts: 880 View My Garage	I got the tsp 2" and they rubbed on the passenger side frame rail and on the steering knuckle. Had to dimple two tubes on the drivers side and one on the passengerside. Other than that I think they are great. Have also heard not everyone has clearance problems so I attribute this to gm assembly tolerances. Im extremely happy with the tsp product its a great product. __________________ Ported intake manifold and throttle body kooks 2" headers no cats

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