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JANNETTYRACING · 03-08-2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Moreair1

I know a couple people who run e85 and meth, does this actually help? According to them they did make more power but researching it i couldn't find any info only meth vs e85

It really comes down a pile if factors I don't have time to list but to summerize

Really High boost applications with high IAT can benefit from both.

What works for them may not work for you.

-Im.z2ight- · 03-14-2018, 10:18 AM

About to go e85 as well just got my sensor kit.

ticowarbird · 03-14-2018, 10:46 AM

Got everything needed for flex fuel on top of meth injection and blower.

HOU_TX_SS · 03-14-2018, 10:54 AM

I only run e85 for the smell!

dreksnot · 03-14-2018, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HOU_TX_SS

I only run e85 for the smell!

Love that smell - cheap race fuel.

Batmanntexas · 03-16-2018, 09:39 PM

What should the default frequency be in HPT? I have two different tunes for my car, from two different shops, and they both use a different value. One uses 60 Hz and the other uses 90 Hz. Which is correct, or is neither correct?

JANNETTYRACING · 03-19-2018, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Batmanntexas

What should the default frequency be in HPT? I have two different tunes for my car, from two different shops, and they both use a different value. One uses 60 Hz and the other uses 90 Hz. Which is correct, or is neither correct?

From what I have seen 90Hz is the correct setting.

Ted.

silversleeper · 04-04-2018, 11:27 AM

I just installed the DSX flex fuel sensor kit JRE - Ted sells. I turned on the flex sensor in HP tuners to make sure it works. It did correctly show 9.8% for my pump gas and I added 5gal of e85 and it went to 29.8%. I didn't adjust the frequency or anything else. I think it had the option of 60khz but I left it where it was, 90khz IIRC. Or was it in hertz not kilohertz, whatever.
The air fuel tables and the spark tables for e85 are blank from the factory. I purchased his mail order tune with those filled in which I'll upload after I put in the larger injectors. First I wanted to make sure I got the sensor installed correctly. I recommend this kit. The new style GM factory clips give me some trouble and the instructions could be better to help people like me not familiar with them but youtube and searches are helpful. I didn't break any so that is a win.
The whole kit clips right in with no troubles if you are smarter than the clips.
Edit: BTW the butt dyno says I lost 50 or 100hp going to 30% ethanol without having the spark and fuel tables properly filled in "tuned". In case anyone was wondering if it's necessary.

JANNETTYRACING · 04-04-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by silversleeper

I just installed the DSX flex fuel sensor kit JRE - Ted sells. I turned on the flex sensor in HP tuners to make sure it works. It did correctly show 9.8% for my pump gas and I added 5gal of e85 and it went to 29.8%. I didn't adjust the frequency or anything else. I think it had the option of 60khz but I left it where it was, 90khz IIRC. Or was it in hertz not kilohertz, whatever.
The air fuel tables and the spark tables for e85 are blank from the factory. I purchased his mail order tune with those filled in which I'll upload after I put in the larger injectors. First I wanted to make sure I got the sensor installed correctly. I recommend this kit. The new style GM factory clips give me some trouble and the instructions could be better to help people like me not familiar with them but youtube and searches are helpful. I didn't break any so that is a win.
The whole kit clips right in with no troubles if you are smarter than the clips.
Edit: BTW the butt dyno says I lost 50 or 100hp going to 30% ethanol without having the spark and fuel tables properly filled in "tuned". In case anyone was wondering if it's necessary.

Thank you for your business.

Ted.

Fanch1LE · 10-15-2019, 03:44 AM

Ted,

If I do the conversion, will you be able to update my current SCTx4 tune to enable flex fuel, or would I need to purchase HP tuner?

gunchamp · 10-15-2019, 12:57 PM

Good afternoon Ted. Are you willing to tune my car with another injector other than the ID's? Dont want to have to switch out what I already bought. Thanks Ryan

JANNETTYRACING · 10-17-2019, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanch1LE

Ted,

If I do the conversion, will you be able to update my current SCTx4 tune to enable flex fuel, or would I need to purchase HP tuner?

Yes no problem as long as you have the supporting fuel system components.

We stock everything Camaro performance so give us a shot.

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

Good afternoon Ted. Are you willing to tune my car with another injector other than the ID's? Dont want to have to switch out what I already bought. Thanks Ryan

Yes, I can tune anything, but it will takes more work for sure, every time I tune an off brand injector the data does not match the injectors in the motor and I have to go old school and keep adjusting the data until it gets close, also, I will not be responsible for any quirks caused by the off brand injectors like long cranking, black smoke on hot starts etc. all things we have seen and have been reported on here.

You can't drill out an injector and expect it to have any quality or accuracy.

Ted.

03-14-2018, 10:18 AM	#58
-Im.z2ight- Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS "Diablo" Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 135	About to go e85 as well just got my sensor kit. __________________ Diablo - 2013 Camaro 2SS Mod List: GM NPP Dual mode exhaust(Fuse pulled), AGP Twin Turbo 54/57, ZL1 Fuel pump with flex fuel sensor, ADM FPCM, ID1000 Injectors, diamond racing forged pistons, BTR twin turbo cam stage 2, Lunati forged H beam rods, BTR trunnions, ARP head studs, Vararam power wedge, MightyMouse Wild catch can, PFADT 1.25" drop springs, BMR Strut tower brace, 20x10.5 Giovanna Mecca rear and 20x9 Giovanna Mecca fronts, R1 Concepts drilled and slotted rotors, Hawk HPS pads, Night Owl RGB halo kit, and more... Future Mods: Dual fuel pump and more...

03-14-2018, 10:46 AM	#59
ticowarbird BOHIC Drives: 2010 Camaro SS "Enola" Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Winter Springs, FL Posts: 562 View My Garage	Got everything needed for flex fuel on top of meth injection and blower. __________________ What else can I do to my Camaro?

03-14-2018, 10:54 AM	#60
HOU_TX_SS Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 156	I only run e85 for the smell! __________________ Fully Built 416ci / Procharger F1X / Century Built 4L80 / ZL1 Differential / Alky Control Meth /Circle D Triple Disk / ID1300s / Fore Innovations Return / Kooks Full Exhaust / Holley HiRam / e85 / 15in Conversion on Forgestar Beadlocks / Tuner: Pat G

03-16-2018, 09:39 PM	#62
Batmanntexas Drives: 2012 Camaro SS (2SS) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,372 View My Garage	What should the default frequency be in HPT? I have two different tunes for my car, from two different shops, and they both use a different value. One uses 60 Hz and the other uses 90 Hz. Which is correct, or is neither correct? __________________ 745RWHP/634RWTQ on 93 @ 10psi 806/676 on E85 @ 10psi COTW 9/8/14

04-04-2018, 11:27 AM	#64
silversleeper Big Crow Drives: '13 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: California Posts: 1,486	I just installed the DSX flex fuel sensor kit JRE - Ted sells. I turned on the flex sensor in HP tuners to make sure it works. It did correctly show 9.8% for my pump gas and I added 5gal of e85 and it went to 29.8%. I didn't adjust the frequency or anything else. I think it had the option of 60khz but I left it where it was, 90khz IIRC. Or was it in hertz not kilohertz, whatever. The air fuel tables and the spark tables for e85 are blank from the factory. I purchased his mail order tune with those filled in which I'll upload after I put in the larger injectors. First I wanted to make sure I got the sensor installed correctly. I recommend this kit. The new style GM factory clips give me some trouble and the instructions could be better to help people like me not familiar with them but youtube and searches are helpful. I didn't break any so that is a win. The whole kit clips right in with no troubles if you are smarter than the clips. Edit: BTW the butt dyno says I lost 50 or 100hp going to 30% ethanol without having the spark and fuel tables properly filled in "tuned". In case anyone was wondering if it's necessary. Last edited by silversleeper; 04-04-2018 at 11:45 AM.

10-15-2019, 03:44 AM	#66
Fanch1LE Drives: 2015 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 157	Ted, If I do the conversion, will you be able to update my current SCTx4 tune to enable flex fuel, or would I need to purchase HP tuner?

10-15-2019, 12:57 PM	#67
gunchamp Drives: 15 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Mountains of central PA Posts: 1,442	Good afternoon Ted. Are you willing to tune my car with another injector other than the ID's? Dont want to have to switch out what I already bought. Thanks Ryan