02-21-2014, 02:13 PM | #1 | |
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Supercharged Callaway Camaro Z/28 SC652 Makes 652 HP
http://wot.motortrend.com/1402_super...es_652_hp.html
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02-21-2014, 02:36 PM | #2 |
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Interesting, but:
In addition to the supercharger, Callaway adds a liquid-to-air intercooler, high-flow intake, low restriction exhaust, and larger fuel injectors. Appearance upgrades include under hood build plaque, carbon fiber injector covers, Callaway badging, dash plaque, embroidered floor mats, door sill panels, Callaway key fob, and authenticity documentation package. How much lower restrictive than the factory version could their exhaust possible be and still be legal? |
02-21-2014, 02:44 PM | #3 |
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i dont live in an emission testing area (thank god) but i believe they are looking for NOx and NO2 from the sniffer. CA i think actually runs a car on a dyno but by Chicago it is a sniffer test. (or used to be)
So if they are installing a supercharger and all they are doing is testing at idle - a solid tune will not prevent the car from passing Back on topic of 20k Heads, cam, valve springs, intake, dyno tune, headers, and exhaust - should at the very least get you 550whp and more likely 600whp. That is 700hp at the flywheel and keeps you all motor. For an LS7 - that is the direction i would go with the car (it should also cost less than 10k installed and tune for all of it too) |
02-21-2014, 03:22 PM | #4 |
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So basically, they took everything the GM engineers worked so hard on with the Z/28 and threw it out the window?
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02-21-2014, 03:40 PM | #5 | |
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I would like to see a build with nothing but the supercharger against a build with the kitchen sink thrown in. Then a prospective customer could start to know the incremental value of the additional pieces. |
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02-21-2014, 04:04 PM | #6 |
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How is this an upgrade based on:
1. Added weight 2. Thermal loads added by supercharging? Don't get me wrong, Callaway usually does a very good job -- but even without thinking about the cost of these upgrades, my answer is "no thanks!". If I absolutely needed more power, I think I'd be calling Katech instead...
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02-21-2014, 04:25 PM | #8 |
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I'll take the Katech packages, thank you very much but nice find Mikey.
http://www.katechengines.com/perform...-5-camaro-z28/ Stage 1 600hp* 565ft-lbs Katech Torquer LS7 camshaft C5-R timing chain High lift valve springs Katech titanium ultra-light retainers Wideband O2 bung Chassis dyno tuning Serialized plaque Price: Call Stage 2 630-660hp* 580ft-lbs Katech K501 or Torquer LS7 camshaft C5-R timing chain High lift valve springs Katech titanium ultra-light retainers CNC-ported heads FAST LSXR 102mm intake manifold Fuel rail/installation kit Wideband O2 bung Chassis dyno tuning Serialized plaque Price: Call Then off course they have their ultimate package.... Track Attack Camaro Z28 For off-road race vehicles or export outside of the United States only Katech Track Attack LS7 package Bore: 4.125 Stroke: 4.000 Displacement: 427ci/7.0L Horsepower: 660 Torque: 570 Redline: 7000RPM CR: 12.0-14.0:1 Block: RHS aluminum with billet main caps, ARP studs, piston squirters Crankshaft: 4340 forged steel with ATI damper Connecting rods: Forged H-beam steel Pistons: 2618 forged aluminum with DLC-coated pins Camshaft: K501 Cylinder heads: CNC-ported LS7 with bronze valve guides, ARP studs Valves: LS7 titanium intake, hollow sodium-filled exhaust Induction: FAST LSXR 102mm Oiling system: ARE Stage 3 with Katech HCS/HCP (red) pump Katech billet belt tensioner Dewitts custom aluminum radiator Integrated oil-to-water oil cooler AN oil cooler lines Katech aluminum or carbon fiber valve covers Powdercoat or show prep paint (aluminum only) Katech Performance engraved insert (aluminum only) Katech coil relocation kit Paint-to-match intake manifold ARE Stage 1, 2, or 3 dry sump system, or Dailey 5 stage FAST LSXR 102mm intake manifold T.
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02-21-2014, 04:31 PM | #9 |
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I love the Z/28. But I would not touch that motor. It is designed to be Naturally Aspirated. I would leave it the way Chevy designed it.
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02-21-2014, 04:41 PM | #10 |
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I'm a bit confused by why anyone would want this. You took a killer track Z28 and made it a semi ZL1. Except if the ZL1 adds a few mods it would have more power so why not get a ZL1 and mod it?
AND, I'm still curious if someone took a ZL and put the Z28 tires on it and dropped the weight 300'ish pounds would it catch the Z28?
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02-21-2014, 04:55 PM | #11 |
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If I could feasibly afford it, I would take it, I dont see how the added 150lbs or so throws off the weight ballance anymore than say a 300lb vs a 200lb guy sitting in the drivers seat does. I do agree that the LS7 was designed as a N/A motor just like the LS3, but I have seen quite a few FI Z06 cars and a hell of a lot of supercharged camaros. I am comfortable with it since they are throwing a 3yr/36,000 mile warranty on it.
If you are driving this car on the track the way it was meant to be, the motor will likely need a freshen up before 50,000 miles and definately before 100,000. But I bet with most of them being stashed away as collector cars, many will never see that 36,000 mile mark anyway. This will appeal to those who like to play at both types of tracks and also want a package car that maintains a little higher collectors value than a car that just had performance parts added down the road. I can't wait to see what Lingenfelter comes up with for the Z/28
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02-21-2014, 05:14 PM | #13 |
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I understand, but my point is so does the weight of different individuals sitting in the drivers seat.
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02-21-2014, 05:15 PM | #14 |
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They will mostly sell the to people who will say "I have a supercharged Z/28 and that is all they care about.
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