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Old 05-29-2019, 06:55 AM   #1
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2019 limited edition

Just wanna say how happy I am with my 2019 2ss 1le and how excited I am it's the only year this front end will ever be made. 30 years from now it could be worth alot who knows. Either way I doubt I'm gonna see another 2019 2ss 1LE on the road and I love it.
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Old 05-29-2019, 06:58 AM   #2
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I love mine but dont hold your breath on any collect-ability for the year.
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:25 AM   #3
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Only year this will ever be made ????
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:32 AM   #4
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For the front end I think he means.
Awesome car man. Love those 1LEs.
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:34 AM   #5
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Cue the haters!
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:55 AM   #6
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Now doubt the 1Le will be more sought after then regular SS models and being the only year the front end was available is a major plus . The less that were made and the more performance is what collectors want . It took a while before people came around to the Split Bumpers on the 70s Camaros, i see the same happening to the 19s .It is a much better looking front end then the dummy down version on the 2020, especially on the 1Le. Its been funny hearing all the people crying about the front end of the 19 ,they need to team up with the people crying the SS 1Le needs a automatic transmission, its all just silly .
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Old 05-29-2019, 08:10 AM   #7
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2019 is not the only year the MODEL is being made. It's the only year for that front end. Big difference. Don't count on it being worth more in 30 years either. Generally, when something is hated by the masses when it comes out, that tends to hold true in the future as well.
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Old 05-29-2019, 08:13 AM   #8
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Also a big assumption gas powered cars will have a huge collector market in a future that makes it illegal to drive one on public roads and where people don't even own cars because everyone ubers since the cost of living ensures nobody has the expendable cash.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:17 AM   #9
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2019 is not the only year the MODEL is being made. It's the only year for that front end. Big difference. Don't count on it being worth more in 30 years either. Generally, when something is hated by the masses when it comes out, that tends to hold true in the future as well.
I agree and I will emphasize the 30-year mark unless it's just some really low production rare numbered car it's about a 30-year turn on making money. Corvette world rule of thumb Corvettes bottom out around 20 years and start back up in value. That's not far off from what most Muscle cars in the market do.

Considering most magazines and reviewers bashed the 2019 SS so bad I'm not seeing a reason to think it's going to turn into a big collectible. I think it is the Ford Edsel of the Camaro world.
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:17 AM   #10
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I agree and I will emphasize the 30-year mark unless it's just some really low production rare numbered car it's about a 30-year turn on making money. Corvette world rule of thumb Corvettes bottom out around 20 years and start back up in value. That's not far off from what most Muscle cars in the market do.
The Integra Type R isn't even 20 years old, already worth significantly more than the ~ $25k sticker price:

https://bringatrailer.com/acura/integra-type-r/

Not to mention Mark IV Supra prices, or R34 Skylines any vintage NSX (save the new ones, ironically).

It's completely misguided to think a muscle car of almost any variety will be where the collector car market is in the future. The cars of the youth of Gen X/Millenials both in volume and pop culture are imports. The halo cars were imports. Market is already shifting that direction, will only get worse. Simply put, this 1969 Camaro and 1999 Civic Si have exactly the same value, but market for the '69 is literally dying off while those who'd want the '99 are just starting to get disposable income.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...let-camaro-32/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-honda-civic-13/
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Old 05-29-2019, 11:11 AM   #11
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I am really glad I got a '19 SS since the style works very well for me.
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Old 05-29-2019, 01:45 PM   #12
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The Integra Type R isn't even 20 years old, already worth significantly more than the ~ $25k sticker price:

https://bringatrailer.com/acura/integra-type-r/

Not to mention Mark IV Supra prices, or R34 Skylines any vintage NSX (save the new ones, ironically).

It's completely misguided to think a muscle car of almost any variety will be where the collector car market is in the future. The cars of the youth of Gen X/Millenials both in volume and pop culture are imports. The halo cars were imports. Market is already shifting that direction, will only get worse. Simply put, this 1969 Camaro and 1999 Civic Si have exactly the same value, but market for the '69 is literally dying off while those who'd want the '99 are just starting to get disposable income.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...let-camaro-32/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-honda-civic-13/
I'm not sure of the 1999 Civic Si being of equal value to certain 1969 Camaros. I think a Z28 with a proven race history (Racing legend Mark Donahue won the SCCA Trans-Am championship for the second year in a row in his #6 Penske/Sunoco Z-28 Camaro) would be more valuable than any Honda Civic.

I think the same can be said of the COPO 427 Camaros.

The fastest and rarest production Camaro is the ZL-1 427 Big-block, COPO #9560. Starting with an SS396/375-hp Camaro, the heavy-duty F41 suspension package was added, as was a cowl-induction hood, front disc brakes, and a choice of either close-ratio 4-speed or Turbo-Hydramatic transmission. The rear axle was upgraded to a 12-bolt positraction unit with 4:10 gearing. All SS trim was removed from the car, as was the SS-396 big-block. In its place went the aluminum-block, aluminum-head 427 ZL-1 motor, fitted with 12.25:1 compression forged aluminum pistons. Intake manifold and water pump were also aluminum. All ZL-1 engines were balanced and blue-printed before installation, and had a torque rating of 450 foot-pounds at 4,400 rpm. Although advertised horsepower rating was 430, actual power from ZL-1 equipped Camaros was nearer 550-horsepower.

http://www.classic-car-history.com/1969-camaro.htm

Yep, I don't think you'll see any million dollar Honda Civics or Integras.

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...ensive-camaros

Car collecting is as risky as betting on horses or playing craps in Vegas. I've owned a couple of cars that I should have hung on to. However, when I bought them they were old. When I sold them, they were older and had more wear. Thinking 40 years into the future was not my forte when I was in my early 20's.
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Old 05-29-2019, 02:05 PM   #13
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Love my front end and entire 1LE
Creative customisation can always create a unique look on any front end
I have had nothing but great reactions to the style myself and since I am the only 1LE around Vancouver I know of, even more eye catching
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Old 05-29-2019, 02:25 PM   #14
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The Integra Type R isn't even 20 years old, already worth significantly more than the ~ $25k sticker price:

https://bringatrailer.com/acura/integra-type-r/

Not to mention Mark IV Supra prices, or R34 Skylines any vintage NSX (save the new ones, ironically).

It's completely misguided to think a muscle car of almost any variety will be where the collector car market is in the future. The cars of the youth of Gen X/Millenials both in volume and pop culture are imports. The halo cars were imports. Market is already shifting that direction, will only get worse. Simply put, this 1969 Camaro and 1999 Civic Si have exactly the same value, but market for the '69 is literally dying off while those who'd want the '99 are just starting to get disposable income.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...let-camaro-32/

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-honda-civic-13/
Are you really trying to compare a 1969 SS Clone Camaro car with unknown miles and nothing original against an all original low mile car and say the market is dying off based on that nonsense . A 1966 VW beetle all original low mile sells for close to what that 1999 Honda sells for. Find a low mile real SS first gen Camaro all original and see what that sells for . First and second gen Camaros have never been in more demand then they are now , that's why there are soo many clones out there for a lot less . Those all original early Camaro are well out of the range for those people looking for a 24K Honda .
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