Trying to improve the ride to keep from selling it. - Page 2

Mark114 · 07-20-2023, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlinez

I’ve been test driving quite a few cars as I am about ready to move on as the ride in this car just wears on me after daily driving it for almost 3.5 years and 45k miles. My son is a Chevy tech and found my rear shocks seeping tonight. Gonna see if his dealer can get them warrantied. Not sure if they have been making it worse, but I doubt they’re helping.
Has anyone upgraded the shocks or springs or done coilovers and truly improved the ride? I loved the great balance of handling and ride my 17 SS non-1le had.
Would either of these two be a good way to go? I don’t want to spend big money and if I have to in order to achieve it, I would probably rather sell it.

I guess I would need a mrc defeat device, not sure what those cost.

Another option to improve ride quality would be to get 19” or 20” standard SS spec wheels and non-runflat tires. The additional sidewall flex should help ride quality. Maybe you can find a used set locally for a reasonable price to reduce the cost.

Redlinez · 07-20-2023, 11:21 AM

Thanks for the input. My son swears by replacing the "seeping" rear shocks it will help. It has seemingly gotten progressively worse since about last summer, so we will see what new ones do. I absolutely loved how my regular 1SS suspension rode and it did fantastic on HPDE weekends as well.
I don't know if I want to get back into a 3rd Camaro or not and I have a 15 Mustang GT PP manual. The manual trans in those suck and are garbage. If I end up selling it, I'll probably end up in something Euro that's "entertaining" to drive yet comfortable. I drive about 15k a year. I also have a 22 Suzuki GSX-S1000 GT for my weekend "spirited" riding.

Kamero6 · 07-20-2023, 12:34 PM

I'd say get SS shocks in all 4 corners and it will ride better. Also get rid of runflats. That would be the cheapest option. Trade in is expensive.

Nick S · 07-20-2023, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlinez

I’ve been test driving quite a few cars as I am about ready to move on as the ride in this car just wears on me after daily driving it for almost 3.5 years and 45k miles. My son is a Chevy tech and found my rear shocks seeping tonight. Gonna see if his dealer can get them warrantied. Not sure if they have been making it worse, but I doubt they’re helping.
Has anyone upgraded the shocks or springs or done coilovers and truly improved the ride? I loved the great balance of handling and ride my 17 SS non-1le had.
Would either of these two be a good way to go? I don’t want to spend big money and if I have to in order to achieve it, I would probably rather sell it.

https://attackingtheclockracing.com/...UaAs7jEALw_wcB

https://zzperformance.com/products/z...to6uLakN5JW1IU
I guess I would need a mrc defeat device, not sure what those cost.

After you get the shocks replaced if it's still too harsh, I'd recommend finding a softer sidewall tire. It is really amazing how much the tire can change the feel of the car. If you were to get something like the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S I'd be willing to be the ride would be softer for you. I know when I put Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my 5th gen 1LE they were definitely softer then the stock good year tires. If you happen to know someone with a different set of tires on wheels that you could throw on your car and try that might be an easy way for you to feel the difference right away.

Also BTW, the stock good years are not run flats so those that are saying they are run flats are incorrect.

Keko · 07-20-2023, 12:49 PM

Local road quality also plays a big factor. I'm lucky to have some pretty smooth roads in my area, so even in the ZLE it's not that bad. Not having lumbar support does kind of suck for longer drives, though.

Redlinez · 07-20-2023, 12:55 PM

NickS, I just put brand new Supercar3's on as my previous Bridgestone/Conti combo wore out. Correct, they are not runflats. They were on my 1SS, but when I replaced them at like 13k miles, I did Michelin 4S's and they lasted 27k miles.
The roads around here are starting to get worse due to the influx of population and growth. It's far worse around where I grew up near Roanoke VA. Those back mountain roads are terrible.

sr71bb · 07-20-2023, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlinez

I’ve been test driving quite a few cars as I am about ready to move on as the ride in this car just wears on me after daily driving it for almost 3.5 years and 45k miles. My son is a Chevy tech and found my rear shocks seeping tonight. Gonna see if his dealer can get them warrantied. Not sure if they have been making it worse, but I doubt they’re helping.
Has anyone upgraded the shocks or springs or done coilovers and truly improved the ride? I loved the great balance of handling and ride my 17 SS non-1le had.
Would either of these two be a good way to go? I don’t want to spend big money and if I have to in order to achieve it, I would probably rather sell it.

https://attackingtheclockracing.com/...UaAs7jEALw_wcB

https://zzperformance.com/products/z...to6uLakN5JW1IU
I guess I would need a mrc defeat device, not sure what those cost.

Well you could install set of KW Variant 3 coilovers like I did on my SS. I did it really to improve the handling which is absolutely does along with a better ride. Theses are completely adjustible on rebound (16 settings) and compression (12 settings). You can make the ride as soft or as stiff as you want. You can also adjust ride height. These are GERMAN made of VERY HIGH quailty and will cost you about 3K.

I run MS4S tires on the street and the ride is firm but not harsh at all.

https://www.kwsuspensions.com/products/coilovers/v3

I purchased my KWs from www.wildhammermotorsports.com

WhiteMale · 07-20-2023, 02:05 PM

Do magride shocks "leak"?

What PSI you running?

CTRifecta · 07-20-2023, 02:17 PM

sounds like you're just ready for something new, no matter what

DaveC113 · 07-20-2023, 03:19 PM

SLE is pretty comfortable in tour, but the 20" SC3s are pretty firm. Maybe go with 19" Michelins, it'll make a big difference. I used to have a set of 265/40/19s for winter, very noticeable difference vs the OEM tires.

Redlinez · 07-20-2023, 05:41 PM

Yes, the magneride shocks leak. Mine are in the rear.

I'm not really and truly wanting to get rid of the car, the ride has just gotten progressively worse and I'm not getting younger. I feel like it's worse when it's colder or hotter out.

Briland_1LE · 07-21-2023, 07:21 AM

If the ride is getting progressively worse than you probably just need to fix whats broken. The damping on the MRC dampers is very good. Most of the harshness of the ride is actually from how low profile the 1LE tires are. Your last SS Camaro didn't have 285/30/R20 tires up front I'm guessing. The cheapest solution for you would be to trade someone with the normal SS wheels and tires for your 1LE wheels and tires and maybe they throw in some cash. You'll still have your 1LE now more comfortable for no cost.

Matos1LE · 07-21-2023, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlinez

I’ve been test driving quite a few cars as I am about ready to move on as the ride in this car just wears on me after daily driving it for almost 3.5 years and 45k miles. My son is a Chevy tech and found my rear shocks seeping tonight. Gonna see if his dealer can get them warrantied. Not sure if they have been making it worse, but I doubt they’re helping.
Has anyone upgraded the shocks or springs or done coilovers and truly improved the ride? I loved the great balance of handling and ride my 17 SS non-1le had.
Would either of these two be a good way to go? I don’t want to spend big money and if I have to in order to achieve it, I would probably rather sell it.

https://attackingtheclockracing.com/...UaAs7jEALw_wcB

https://zzperformance.com/products/z...to6uLakN5JW1IU
I guess I would need a mrc defeat device, not sure what those cost.

If you want a more comfortable ride whilst preserving the handling, the shocks and springs are not the first place to look. It's the rubber band thickness of the sidewalls. Go to a smaller diameter wheel and run a tire with more sidewall and it will make heaps of difference. Having fresh shocks out back will also help.

GXP08jrf · 07-21-2023, 11:40 AM

OP: Absolutely replace the leakers as you're fist step and then reevaluate. Unlike conventional shocks, magrides warp and seize as their failure mode up to the point where you'll get no suspension articulation at all.

The rate of failure & replacement may dictate if you want to go with different aftermarket components, or consider a different setup.

100% agreement on ditching RFT/RoFs for conventional tire construction as a close 2nd step.

07-20-2023, 11:21 AM	#16
Redlinez Shifts under load Drives: 2020 Camaro 1SS 1LE rally green Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC Posts: 1,295	Thanks for the input. My son swears by replacing the "seeping" rear shocks it will help. It has seemingly gotten progressively worse since about last summer, so we will see what new ones do. I absolutely loved how my regular 1SS suspension rode and it did fantastic on HPDE weekends as well. I don't know if I want to get back into a 3rd Camaro or not and I have a 15 Mustang GT PP manual. The manual trans in those suck and are garbage. If I end up selling it, I'll probably end up in something Euro that's "entertaining" to drive yet comfortable. I drive about 15k a year. I also have a 22 Suzuki GSX-S1000 GT for my weekend "spirited" riding. __________________ 24 Audi S3 prem plus, sport package HPDE - southeast - JTI- solo, PCA- blue. 22 Suzuki GSX-S 1000GT blue

07-20-2023, 12:49 PM	#19
Keko Drives: 2023 ZLE M6 Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: California Posts: 171	Local road quality also plays a big factor. I'm lucky to have some pretty smooth roads in my area, so even in the ZLE it's not that bad. Not having lumbar support does kind of suck for longer drives, though. __________________ 2023 ZLE M6 Borla S-Type Catback \| Rotofab CAI \| Soler TB \| MPI Lid

07-20-2023, 12:55 PM	#20
Redlinez Shifts under load Drives: 2020 Camaro 1SS 1LE rally green Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC Posts: 1,295	NickS, I just put brand new Supercar3's on as my previous Bridgestone/Conti combo wore out. Correct, they are not runflats. They were on my 1SS, but when I replaced them at like 13k miles, I did Michelin 4S's and they lasted 27k miles. The roads around here are starting to get worse due to the influx of population and growth. It's far worse around where I grew up near Roanoke VA. Those back mountain roads are terrible. __________________ 24 Audi S3 prem plus, sport package HPDE - southeast - JTI- solo, PCA- blue. 22 Suzuki GSX-S 1000GT blue

07-20-2023, 03:19 PM	#24
DaveC113 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 1,868	SLE is pretty comfortable in tour, but the 20" SC3s are pretty firm. Maybe go with 19" Michelins, it'll make a big difference. I used to have a set of 265/40/19s for winter, very noticeable difference vs the OEM tires. __________________

07-20-2023, 05:41 PM	#25
Redlinez Shifts under load Drives: 2020 Camaro 1SS 1LE rally green Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC Posts: 1,295	Yes, the magneride shocks leak. Mine are in the rear. I'm not really and truly wanting to get rid of the car, the ride has just gotten progressively worse and I'm not getting younger. I feel like it's worse when it's colder or hotter out. __________________ 24 Audi S3 prem plus, sport package HPDE - southeast - JTI- solo, PCA- blue. 22 Suzuki GSX-S 1000GT blue

07-20-2023, 12:34 PM	#17
Kamero6 Drives: 6th Gen LT1 Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: Southeast Posts: 244	I'd say get SS shocks in all 4 corners and it will ride better. Also get rid of runflats. That would be the cheapest option. Trade in is expensive.

07-20-2023, 02:05 PM	#22
WhiteMale Drives: 23 ZL1 A10 Rapid Blue Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: MO Posts: 1,992	Do magride shocks "leak"? What PSI you running?

07-20-2023, 02:17 PM	#23
CTRifecta Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2023 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 320	sounds like you're just ready for something new, no matter what

07-21-2023, 07:21 AM	#26
Briland_1LE Drives: 2020 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Miami Posts: 227	If the ride is getting progressively worse than you probably just need to fix whats broken. The damping on the MRC dampers is very good. Most of the harshness of the ride is actually from how low profile the 1LE tires are. Your last SS Camaro didn't have 285/30/R20 tires up front I'm guessing. The cheapest solution for you would be to trade someone with the normal SS wheels and tires for your 1LE wheels and tires and maybe they throw in some cash. You'll still have your 1LE now more comfortable for no cost.

07-21-2023, 11:40 AM	#28
GXP08jrf Drives: 2016 1LT 'Vert Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: Midwest Posts: 171	Replace 'em OP: Absolutely replace the leakers as you're fist step and then reevaluate. Unlike conventional shocks, magrides warp and seize as their failure mode up to the point where you'll get no suspension articulation at all. The rate of failure & replacement may dictate if you want to go with different aftermarket components, or consider a different setup. 100% agreement on ditching RFT/RoFs for conventional tire construction as a close 2nd step.

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