CAMARO ORDERING FOR SOLD ORDERS STARTS 10/13

[CamaroScotty]

Originally Posted by joel98z

Scotty, I qualify for GMS pricing. Will you guys honor that for a new order?

If Chevy offers it, yes. :flag2:

[o2camaross]

"It's hard as balls, but hopefully it pays off. The football on the weekends makes up for shitty school...What are you studying?"

Im taking mechanical engineering as well, and yea its stupid hard, but like you said hopefully it pays off

[SS One]

I found this while searching the web and thought some members who are holding-out for a convertable would want to know. (From Tom Henry Chevrolet website)

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Uh-oh

Automotive News reported some weeks ago that the fifth-generation Camaro Convertible, originally due to go on sale in the Winter of 2010/2011 as a 2011 model, would probably be delayed and end-up a 2012.

GM's spokesperson on things Camaro, Vince Muniga, told the Camaro Homepage that the introduction of the Convertible has, indeed been delayed. Muniga stated further that the plan now is to produce a limited number of 2011 Camaro Convertibles in the late Winter and early Spring of '11. These will go on sale in Q2 that year.

Why the delay?



Only those who've spent the last couple of years in a galaxy far, far away are unaware that General Motors–most of the auto industry, for that matter–is having a tough time. Struggling to raise cash, retooling to make more Cobalts, improving fuel economy of existing powertrains, an incredible amount of engineering resources and capital investment going into the Chevy Volt, cost cutting and head-count reductions are the main goals right now.

For the Camaro Convertible development, resources to get the job done in time to make the original introduction date were just not available. So, convertible fans, take a deep breath, it'll be just a little longer. On the upside, those lucky enough to buy an 2011 Convertible will have a pretty rare car.

Six not Four

We hear vicious rumors about a four-cylinder engine for the Camaro. The obvious candidate is the "LNF", a 260-hp, turbocharged, direct-injected, 2-liter Ecotec used in the Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice roadsters, in the Cobalt SS and the HHR SS. The knee-jerk reaction to this idea by those wanting a Camaro capable of better fuel economy than even the already-announced base V6 might be, "Well...260 horsepower is ok as long as it gets great mileage."



Beware knee-jerk reactions.

According to a statement Vince Muniga gave us, "There are no plans to offer a four cylinder engine in the new Camaro. Our engine choices remain a V6 and a V8."

There are some good reasons for that. Currently, all the cars which use the LNF are at least 460 pounds and as much as 770 pounds lighter than the lightest 2010 base model.

A turbocharged four, even one with 260 hp and 260 lbs/ft from 2000-5250 rpm, is going to work hard in a car that weighs 3740 lbs. Even the most conservative of drivers in all but part throttle cruising at modest speeds on level ground is going to be "into the turbo" a lot of the time and will negate any fuel economy advantage over the base V6 already announced.

Bottom line: no four-banger in a Camaro.

Thank you Lord!

LS3 vs L99: The Major Differences

Some who have read our article on the LS3 V8 (click here to read that article) have wondered about the major differences between the LS3, to be used in six-speed manual SSes, and the L99, to be used in six-speed automatic SSes, besides slightly less power (400hp vs 422) and torque (395 lbs/ft vs 408) and the addition of GM's cylinder deactivation system, Active Fuel Management (AFM).

We put that question to GM Powertrain's hard-working Communications rep., Tom Read. He told us that the L99 camshaft is different having a little less duration and a little less lift, both of which give the engine a smoother idle.



The L99 V8, a slightly detuned version of the manual trans LS3, has a "cam phaser", the device on the front of this Gen 4 camshaft. It's controlled by the engine computer and changes the phasing of the valve events to the movement of the piston. Changing the valve opening and closing in relation to piston movement can improve fuel economy at light loads.
Image: GM Powertrain.



The cam phaser is located inside the front cover, ahead of the timing chain and slightly increases the overall length of the engine. Image: GM Powertrain.


Read told us the L99, also, has a cam phaser and, to get the additional piston-to-valve clearance required when cam phasing changes, the pistons are different parts having valve reliefs machined into their tops. The reliefs lower the compression ratio to 10.4:1. Lastly, the L99 PCV system is different having its oil separators in the valve covers rather than down in the valley like the LS3.

What Happened to the Blower?

A while back there was talk about the Camaro SS having an optional, supercharged engine. The candidate was to have been a slightly different version of the 550-hp LSA used in the '09 Cadillac CTS-V which, in turn, is a somewhat less aggressive brother of the 632-hp LS9 in the '09 Corvette ZR1.

Sadly, skyrocketing gas prices and GM's financial struggles left an LSA Camaro SS DOA. Chevrolet weighed the advantages and disadvantages of a 550-hp Camaro which would also have a "gas guzzler" tax surcharge on an MSRP already inflated by the supercharged engine, decided discretion was the better part of valor and killed the LSA Camaro project. The fact that by the car's projected on-sale date later this Winter, the nation will be smack dab in the middle of a recession will, no doubt, lend additional credibility to that decision.

As for the few buyers who can afford a 500+hp supercharged engine? Can you say "aftermarket"?

[5th_GEN_SS]

I am NUMBER ONE on the list....

rally yellow (GCO) coupe with the 2SS package, black int (AFM), and black rally stripes (VZG) in 6 speed manual

[TAG UR IT]

Great article SSOne!

And, everything on there sounds 100% correct!...but, that's what you get from Tom Henry!!!

[logan1080]

Just got the call, i will also be able to put in my order on the 13th. first on the list baby, i knew it would pay off to call the dealership 6 months ago.

[camarorick]

Originally Posted by logan1080

Just got the call, i will also be able to put in my order on the 13th. first on the list baby, i knew it would pay off to call the dealership 6 months ago.

Are you buying in the US, or Canada?

[Txturbo]

Originally Posted by logan1080

Just got the call, i will also be able to put in my order on the 13th. first on the list baby, i knew it would pay off to call the dealership 6 months ago.

Anybody can put in an order on the 13th. You don't have to be on a list.

[Chewy]

i think he was referring to being first on his dealers list

[logan1080]

1st on dealers list, im in canada. And i meant the 16th.

[BLACK67]

The 16th of December that is, he is Canadian.
I was at my dealer again last night and left them a copy of the "Initial Ordering Workbook".
lol They appreciate me keeping them up to Date.

[logan1080]

Nope 16th of this month I will be able to order.

[camarorick]

Originally Posted by logan1080

Nope 16th of this month I will be able to order.

Confirmed Logan ! I just returned from my dealer, and left my deposit. They have an IDL on the 16th, and they claim they will be able to put the order in the system on that day.

[BLACK67]

Hmmm..back to my dealer to update them again.