2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by jordanc

sure when the thread was made just to criticize the zl1 on a camaro fourm

There has been some of that, but alot of it is just raw numbers and mostly civil discussion about the GT500.

I would understand your point if the the thread was called the ZL1SUCKSGT500FTW mega thread, but it isnt.

[jordanc]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

There has been some of that, but alot of it is just raw numbers and mostly civil discussion about the GT500.

I would understand your point if the the thread was called the ZL1SUCKSGT500FTW mega thread, but it isnt.

just seemed like some bashing going on if the tread was opened by a camaro owner i can see its about the numbers but when i see it was opened by a 500gt owner seems like a bash party on a Camaro forum no disrespect

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by 93TealCobra

I hate to burst your bubble, but it was DBK on SVTP. Like I said about 2 pages ago, he's also on Shelby Forums, and has met with Jamal Hameedi in person before. He ALWAYS has inside information. He's the one who confirmed that the '13 had a press day at Road Atlanta yesterday. He has never been wrong, not once.

The car went 11.52 @ 127 MPH and that's a fact. This thing is a beast, there's undeniable fact behind it.

saying the car went 11.52 is no different than saying my Z06 went 10.90. some guy out there has done it but it wasn't me.

I have no doubt the car will not go that fast but I feel like that proabaly a best run or to use the gay internet term "hero" run.

at the press day 11.80-12.0's wer cut.

seeing that video of the 12.02 that guy posted in a manual ZL-1 with almost no seat time makes me think that this is not as big a deal as people make it.

ZL-1 will need pulley and tune to roll with a 2013 GT500 in a strait line. BFD. all that wining and something you can bolt on in a coupel hours brings you back equal. buy the car you like. period.

I think the 2013 GT500 is awesome but if it's best run/hero run is 11.5 then it no hugedeal. 1k into a ZL1 nets the same times.

[Khell]

Originally Posted by hognutz

saying the car went 11.52 is no different than saying my Z06 went 10.90. some guy out there has done it but it wasn't me.

I have no doubt the car will not go that fast but I feel like that proabaly a best run or to use the gay internet term "hero" run.

at the press day 11.80-12.0's wer cut.

seeing that video of the 12.02 that guy posted in a manual ZL-1 with almost no seat time makes me think that this is not as big a deal as people make it.

ZL-1 will need pulley and tune to roll with a 2013 GT500 in a strait line. BFD. all that wining and something you can bolt on in a coupel hours brings you back equal. buy the car you like. period.

I think the 2013 GT500 is awesome but if it's best run/hero run is 11.5 then it no hugedeal. 1k into a ZL1 nets the same times.

I dont think a pulley/tune will let the ZL1 pick up 10 MPH.

[Truck Norris]

Originally Posted by 9sec5oh

Actually MM&FF said on Facebook they went a best of 11.81@124.8, not 123. Close to 125 in a massively heat soaked car that had 35 passes on it.

Originally Posted by Paco

11.57 at 127 is very believable. I still think that time will be beat by end of summer/early fall.

Yes a .24 second and 2.2mph improvement in better conditions is very believable considering the hot florida weather with launch control only launches and the added weight of a cage.

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by Khell

I dont think a pulley/tune will let the ZL1 pick up 10 MPH.

sorry left out CAI. vendor ran 11.43 with those mods.

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by 9sec5oh

If you put 1K into the ZL1 what happens when the GT500 puts the same 1K into his car?? That 11.8 time was with a 2.0 60ft... Imagine what a drag radial will do for them.

well it is all relitive. when I priced out a GT500 it was 61,450 PP+TP. so 1k in that would put you put 62,450.

now you pay 56,295 for a ZL1. so put that 6k into a ZL1. Headers, pulley, tune, portend snout, cam, injectors, cai. what you end up with a realy rad car that is in the 10's either way.

they are really very equiveltent money wise trust me I have crunched them as I am a car guy not a chevy guy.

at that point neither car would have waranty left either.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by hognutz

saying the car went 11.52 is no different than saying my Z06 went 10.90. some guy out there has done it but it wasn't me.

I have no doubt the car will not go that fast but I feel like that proabaly a best run or to use the gay internet term "hero" run.

at the press day 11.80-12.0's wer cut.

seeing that video of the 12.02 that guy posted in a manual ZL-1 with almost no seat time makes me think that this is not as big a deal as people make it.

ZL-1 will need pulley and tune to roll with a 2013 GT500 in a strait line. BFD. all that wining and something you can bolt on in a coupel hours brings you back equal. buy the car you like. period.

I think the 2013 GT500 is awesome but if it's best run/hero run is 11.5 then it no hugedeal. 1k into a ZL1 nets the same times.

I will use the time put down by Evan as the GT500s benchmark. If 11:80s is all he could muster I doubt many owners will better that number on stock rubber. Also all this mph talk is just that talk, If i beat a 500 running 116 mph to his 124, it doesn't matter I won. The average Joes will run low 12s to high 11s with the car at the local strips.

[Khell]

Originally Posted by hognutz

well it is all relitive. when I priced out a GT500 it was 61,450 PP+TP. so 1k in that would put you put 62,450.

now you pay 56,295 for a ZL1. so put that 6k into a ZL1. Headers, pulley, tune, portend snout, cam, injectors, cai. what you end up with a realy rad car that is in the 10's either way.

they are really very equiveltent money wise trust me I have crunched them as I am a car guy not a chevy guy.

at that point neither car would have waranty left either.

You also got to remember that if you're only interested in the 1/4 mile then you dont need the PP or TP. So you're coming out less than the ZL1. Granted most will get the PP which makes it like 58k. Isnt the price on the ZL1 going up with the 13MY. 1500 i believe. They seem pretty close now.

[HPT BANDIT]

Originally Posted by hognutz

ZL-1 will need pulley and tune to roll with a 2013 GT500 in a strait line. BFD. all that wining and something you can bolt on in a coupel hours brings you back equal. buy the car you like. period.

I think the 2013 GT500 is awesome but if it's best run/hero run is 11.5 then it no hugedeal. 1k into a ZL1 nets the same times.

Do you know how silly that sounds? I can put "fill in the blank" on my car and run with a stock car. If that's the case, everyone would just buy a base model car and throw mods on it. There is no need to buy a zr1 or a gt500. Why buy a Z06 when the base model will do the same.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by Ron66Vette&10SS

I'm in the same boat as you. I've owned 3 Corvettes and 6 Camaros, with a couple each of Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles thrown in. NOTHING BUT GM and and NEVER considered a Mustang.......that is until the '13 Shelby was announced.

As much as LOVE the look of the ZL1, I'm dissapointed as hell in its stock straight-line performance. I could "settle" for the look of the Shelby as long as it solidly runs in the 11's, but I won't "settle" for a ZL1 that struggles to even get into the low 12's...even if it does look MUCH better in my opinion. Unless the ZL1 were to magically (or should I say miraculously?) get a bump of 100hp or more from GM, I don't see one in my future :(.

I'm waiting a bit longer to see how the C7 Corvette looks (without the camo) and performs before I make my final decision, but more than likely my next vehicle will either be a low mileage C6 Z06 or a new Shelby.

Funny thing this new Shelby. I may drive a Mustang now but my last 5 cars were all BMWs and I cross shopped Camaros and Mustangs before deciding on the Boss. Never drawn to a Shelby before but if the ZL1 caught my interest, this new GT500 has me absolutely mesmerized. Maybe it's the numbers, maybe it's that it's the last Shelby era Shelby but I think it's just the cool grill free front end. Very AC Cobra like.

[Khell]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I will use the time put down by Evan as the GT500s benchmark. If 11:80s is all he could muster I doubt many owners will better that number on stock rubber. Also all this mph talk is just that talk, If i beat a 500 running 116 mph to his 124, it doesn't matter I won. The average Joes will run low 12s to high 11s with the car at the local strips.

Remember that all the runs were also done with LC and hotlapped quite extensively. Evan stated that his car had 35 passes on it before he got a chance to take it out. They were all requried to use to LC to show what it is capable of. When they get to test them by themselves with no nannies we'll see those numbers drop. The 13 GT500 has trapped as high as 129 during testing.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I will use the time put down by Evan as the GT500s benchmark. If 11:80s is all he could muster I doubt many owners will better that number on stock rubber. Also all this mph talk is just that talk, If i beat a 500 running 116 mph to his 124, it doesn't matter I won. The average Joes will run low 12s to high 11s with the car at the local strips.

I agree here too! Not saying that the Shelby can't run a 11.5 in fact with those trap speeds I know it can. That being said if 11.5 was something you could easily achieve Ford would have posted 11.5 1/4 mile to press long before now. Does Ford have any printed material you get with the car or for marketing with manufacturing specs? Most cars have in their brochures what their 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times are??

[Fenderaddict2]

Everybody should learn to lighten up. The other side always sucks. Just remember we are alway on the "other side" to someone. No big deal, we all buy what we like for reason of our own. Defend sure, but defend or attack for that matter all in good fun.

Anyway... ZL1's suck. Shelby's Suck. Boss Mustangs rule!

















You know I'm kidding right? All this new American Muscle ROCKS!!!