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2NASSTY · 08-23-2016, 08:55 AM

^^^Great points from a road course perspective. Makes a lot of sense.

larrysing · 08-23-2016, 09:05 AM

This is really easy.

If you want a DD, buy the ZL1.

If you just want an occasional toy for tracking, or you are buying it to try to sell it later as a collector car, buy the Z28.

Barbosa · 08-23-2016, 10:01 AM

Wait a few months and the Z/28 an maybe you will see one for sale around mid $40s.

AZ Charlie · 08-23-2016, 01:11 PM

Z/28 ALL DAY!!!

URBAN LEGEND · 08-23-2016, 01:18 PM

I had a 13 ZL1 for 3 years. Currently have a 15 Z/28. If I had to pick I'd go with Z/28.

mred2nice · 08-23-2016, 10:26 PM

ZL1 here...I just don't care for the taillights on the Z28.

flipstyledsm22 · 08-24-2016, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mred2nice

ZL1 here...I just don't care for the taillights on the Z28.

Taillights wouldn't be a deal breaker for a lot of folks... There will need to be a significant amount of change in the body design to warrant such a decision if the price difference is so small in this case.

Zl1TopLess · 08-28-2016, 06:57 AM

From what i understand the Zl1 makes a better track car in the long run.
The Z28 for maintenance cost would kill. The carbon brakes are better suited for street use and will last for ever. Now if you track maybe 2 3 times a year than the Z28 is a better option. The carbon brakes start to wear at continuous high temps. So a few track days here and there, they should last for years. On the other hand a set of Zl1 brake pads and rotors are about 1500 or so. I say stick with a zl1 and mod it for track use.

Mpsmith1 · 08-28-2016, 08:00 AM

IMO, these two cars shouldn't be priced anywhere near $1,000 of each other. What is the price of each?

Can'tHave2MuchHP · 08-28-2016, 10:05 AM

The OP said track day once in a while and mountain roads....that is no where near enough to warrant the track power of the Z-28, period.

I get it, I wanted a Z28 because they look bad ass and I love the LS7, but I bought a ZL1 because it's a better car all around. Easy to make HP, comfy, much faster out of the box on the street on the street, interior is quiet....The Z28's positives are track capability which you've basically said you wouldn't need, so other than that, it looks awesome and you'll probably be the only guy with one in a huge mile radius, very rare.

And as far as price? Either that ZL1 is over priced as hell or the Z28 is a steal. A ZL1 like you described should be around 40k for a great deal and 45k for too much, at least where I'm at (Bought a '13 Vert with 2900 miles for 41k just months ago). Z28 is 52-56K+ as of now.

Normagene · 08-28-2016, 10:14 AM

Z/28 if your plan is to track the car a lot, like every weekend, and if you're a Pro Driver or trying to become a Pro Driver for a living.

If you're just a novice who likes to track their car once in awhile, then definitely go with the ZL1. Your average guy will get pretty much the same exact numbers every lap no matter which car they are driving.

The only time you will see a slight track time difference is if you are capable of pushing and keeping the car at its limit. You're only as good as your ability, and the average guy isn't better than either of these cars ability.

So with that being said, the ZL1 is going to be much better as a daily driver, more comfortable, AC, and a decent sound system.

Normagene · 08-28-2016, 10:22 AM

Oh one more thing, hubby took me on a closed road yesterday so I could give launch control and the No Lift Shifting feature a couple tries.

Boy oh boy was that fun! Really a strange sensation I have to say. It just feels weird/crazy to keep it at full throttle and then push the clutch and shift, drop the clutch and still have it to the floor. But it does work, got some nice tire chirps between shifts too!!!

Which ever the OP chooses it will be fun fun fun to drive!

z28monster · 08-28-2016, 08:36 PM

ZL1 so you don't risk getting a Z/28 dirty on rainy-days

...Z/28

JusticePete · 08-29-2016, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyT

I am looking at trading in my 12 SS and have a couple of choices

15 Z/28 w/582 miles
13 ZL1 w/5000 miles

They are within $1000 of each other

Which would you choose?

Thanks

08-23-2016, 08:55 AM	#29
2NASSTY Drives: 2014 M6 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tarpon Springs, Fl Posts: 772	^^^Great points from a road course perspective. Makes a lot of sense. __________________ 15' Ashen Gray Metallic Z/28 14' Crystal Red Tintcoat ZL1 6M, 9.62 at 150.75 MPH 12' Opulent Blue Metallic CTS-V Sedan, 10.690 at 129.60 MPH - SOLD 06' LeMans Blue Metallic Z06, 11.726 at 127.80 MPH Motor - SOLD. 96' Impala SS LTx, 11.397 at 118.10 MPH Motor, 1st stage 10.526 at 127.46 MPH

08-23-2016, 01:11 PM	#32
AZ Charlie Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 308 View My Garage	Z/28 ALL DAY!!! __________________ 2017 ZL1 A10 PDR NAV 2007 Lamborghini LP640 2010 Tundra Pre Runner 2012 Ford F450 Super Duty Prior cars: 2015 Z/28 Redline Motorsports SC725 (see profile for build details, Redline Motorsports youtube, Super Chevy article, etc) 2010 SS Supercharged with other mods...(two of this model) 2003 Lamborghini Murcielago (two of this model) 1998 Lamborghini Diablo SV 2004 Lamborghini Gallardo Ferrari 348 Spider Saleen Mustang

08-23-2016, 01:18 PM	#33
URBAN LEGEND Drives: 20 X3M CP & 19 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Brenham, TX Posts: 3,517	I had a 13 ZL1 for 3 years. Currently have a 15 Z/28. If I had to pick I'd go with Z/28. __________________ 🔺22 RS E TRON GT 🔺21 Model S Plaid

08-28-2016, 06:57 AM	#36
Zl1TopLess Drives: 2013 Victory Red ZL1 M6 Vert Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Auburn Hills, Mi Posts: 58 View My Garage	From what i understand the Zl1 makes a better track car in the long run. The Z28 for maintenance cost would kill. The carbon brakes are better suited for street use and will last for ever. Now if you track maybe 2 3 times a year than the Z28 is a better option. The carbon brakes start to wear at continuous high temps. So a few track days here and there, they should last for years. On the other hand a set of Zl1 brake pads and rotors are about 1500 or so. I say stick with a zl1 and mod it for track use. __________________ 2013 ZL1 M6 Roto Fab CAI, Kooks Long tube Headers with catless connection pipes, 90mm Ported throttle body to match ported supercharger snout. 2.55 upper pulley, Roto Fab intercooler tank, ID 850 injectors, 9.5 mm wires, Custom 93 octane tune. 600 whp. Hotchkis coils. White Collar Grease Monkey https://www.youtube.com/user/gjodexter

08-23-2016, 09:05 AM	#30
larrysing Drives: BMW 335d but shopping 2SS Aug2017 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Arlington TX Posts: 11	This is really easy. If you want a DD, buy the ZL1. If you just want an occasional toy for tracking, or you are buying it to try to sell it later as a collector car, buy the Z28.

08-23-2016, 10:01 AM	#31
Barbosa Banned Drives: Hummer Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 63	Wait a few months and the Z/28 an maybe you will see one for sale around mid $40s.

08-23-2016, 10:26 PM	#34
mred2nice Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 & 1979 10.5 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: North Olmsted Posts: 110	ZL1 here...I just don't care for the taillights on the Z28.

08-28-2016, 08:00 AM	#37
Mpsmith1 Drives: '19 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: O'Fallon, MO Posts: 836	IMO, these two cars shouldn't be priced anywhere near $1,000 of each other. What is the price of each?

08-28-2016, 10:05 AM	#38
Can'tHave2MuchHP Drives: Fast Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,696	The OP said track day once in a while and mountain roads....that is no where near enough to warrant the track power of the Z-28, period. I get it, I wanted a Z28 because they look bad ass and I love the LS7, but I bought a ZL1 because it's a better car all around. Easy to make HP, comfy, much faster out of the box on the street on the street, interior is quiet....The Z28's positives are track capability which you've basically said you wouldn't need, so other than that, it looks awesome and you'll probably be the only guy with one in a huge mile radius, very rare. And as far as price? Either that ZL1 is over priced as hell or the Z28 is a steal. A ZL1 like you described should be around 40k for a great deal and 45k for too much, at least where I'm at (Bought a '13 Vert with 2900 miles for 41k just months ago). Z28 is 52-56K+ as of now.

08-28-2016, 10:14 AM	#39
Normagene Drives: 2013 Ashen Gray M6 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 2,615 View My Garage	Z/28 if your plan is to track the car a lot, like every weekend, and if you're a Pro Driver or trying to become a Pro Driver for a living. If you're just a novice who likes to track their car once in awhile, then definitely go with the ZL1. Your average guy will get pretty much the same exact numbers every lap no matter which car they are driving. The only time you will see a slight track time difference is if you are capable of pushing and keeping the car at its limit. You're only as good as your ability, and the average guy isn't better than either of these cars ability. So with that being said, the ZL1 is going to be much better as a daily driver, more comfortable, AC, and a decent sound system.

08-28-2016, 10:22 AM	#40
Normagene Drives: 2013 Ashen Gray M6 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 2,615 View My Garage	Oh one more thing, hubby took me on a closed road yesterday so I could give launch control and the No Lift Shifting feature a couple tries. Boy oh boy was that fun! Really a strange sensation I have to say. It just feels weird/crazy to keep it at full throttle and then push the clutch and shift, drop the clutch and still have it to the floor. But it does work, got some nice tire chirps between shifts too!!! Which ever the OP chooses it will be fun fun fun to drive!

08-28-2016, 08:36 PM	#41
z28monster Drives: 15 Z28, 17 GT350R Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 212	ZL1 so you don't risk getting a Z/28 dirty on rainy-days ...Z/28