New throttle body spacer from Vararam - my thoughts... - Page 12 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

IndeedSS1 · 06-11-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Birm

Thanks

Welcome. I am skeptical but certainly not discounting anything.

Birm · 06-11-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

Welcome. I am skeptical but certainly not discounting anything.

Yea I agree, I am going to wait for a few reviews from a few others as well as maybe some independent testing.

Inferno Orange 2SS-RS · 06-11-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

Read the first page of the thread

8 degrees.

sales@vararam.com · 06-11-2012, 03:46 PM

Hey everyone, we are really excited about this product. We know that you may have questions and some of you are just excited to get your hands on it however, we would really like to do this right rather than piece meal answers here and there, so we ask that you please just wait for the webpage and the official rollout. The webpage will answer most of your questions and end any confusion about how or what etc..
We spent over a year on this product, testing On Corvettes, Camaro 's ,GTO's G-8's etc..
Each design was evaluated and run for thousands of miles, bottom line is YES, IT works, it works so well in fact that you guys are going to be stunned by something that appears so simple. It was not simple to design. Get it wrong and you will have a mess.
YES we are guaranteeing a power gain or we will take the part back and pay shipping both ways.
(Spacers in general) We know that the word "spacer" can be a dirty word in the aftermarket. There are a few companies that make them and they tend to find one design that works and then replicate it on every application. A Carb spacer will and does work, but what design and on what applications? Most results will vary and duplicating it on an EFI application it may not work or it may even hurt power.
Every application is different and as such, every design must also change to suite the application. They tend to just re-use the same design over and over again, in applications where it does not belong.
With design of this type of product many have focused on the obvious, the blade itself however, there is a lot more going on inside the aerodynamic package than just tilting the blade to a less restrictive angle of attack. That is only part one.
This will all be explained and shown on the webpage when it goes live.

IndeedSS1 · 06-11-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sales@vararam.com

Hey everyone, we are really excited about this product. We know that you may have questions and some of you are just excited to get your hands on it however, we would really like to do this right rather than piece meal answers here and there, so we ask that you please just wait for the webpage and the official rollout. The webpage will answer most of your questions and end any confusion about how or what etc..
We spent over a year on this product, testing On Corvettes, Camaro 's ,GTO's G-8's etc..
Each design was evaluated and run for thousands of miles, bottom line is YES, IT works, it works so well in fact that you guys are going to be stunned by something that appears so simple. It was not simple to design. Get it wrong and you will have a mess.
YES we are guaranteeing a power gain or we will take the part back and pay shipping both ways.
(Spacers in general) We know that the word "spacer" can be a dirty word in the aftermarket. There are a few companies that make them and they tend to find one design that works and then replicate it on every application. A Carb spacer will and does work, but what design and on what applications? Most results will vary and duplicating it on an EFI application it may not work or it may even hurt power.
Every application is different and as such, every design must also change to suite the application. They tend to just re-use the same design over and over again, in applications where it does not belong.
With design of this type of product many have focused on the obvious, the blade itself however, there is a lot more going on inside the aerodynamic package than just tilting the blade to a less restrictive angle of attack. That is only part one.
This will all be explained and shown on the webpage when it goes live.

Toss the dogs a bone. What are we talking here time wise? A week, a month, another year? I'm only asking for those impatient people, not for myself

SC2150 · 06-11-2012, 05:21 PM

Just real time independant dyno tests is what holds water. We all know the Vararam intakes work great and produce power, but we have tested several other brands that look similar (but not this one) and could not duplicate any claims. Would be good to see it actually produce....would be a good seller.

IndeedSS1 · 06-11-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Just real time independant dyno tests is what holds water. We all know the Vararam intakes work great and produce power, but we have tested several other brands of "spacers" that look similar (but not this one) and could not duplicate any claims. Would be good to see it actually produce....would be a good seller.

Just sayin

Camarowguy · 06-11-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Just real time independant dyno tests is what holds water. We all know the Vararam intakes work great and produce power, but we have tested several other brands that look similar (but not this one) and could not duplicate any claims. Would be good to see it actually produce....would be a good seller.

After talking to them today, I'm on board. Money back guarantee also.

IndeedSS1 · 06-11-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

After talking to them today, I'm on board. Money back guarantee also.

Did Steve give you any idea of when they will be available?

Firerader · 06-11-2012, 07:06 PM

If the spacer corrects an 8 degree angle on the blade wouldn't that translate to the corrected angle placed on the throttle body itself?

Camarowguy · 06-11-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

Did Steve give you any idea of when they will be available?

He said they should be ready to ship Thursday or Friday.

SGOS252382 · 06-12-2012, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

After talking to them today, I'm on board. Money back guarantee also.

But doesn't the spacer require a new tune on cars already running a Vararam intake?

I didn't read the entire thread, but I did read something about cars with Vararam intakes will lose 5-6 hp with the spacer if not tuned.

Camarowguy · 06-12-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

But doesn't the spacer require a new tune on cars already running a Vararam intake?

I didn't read the entire thread, but I did read something about cars with Vararam intakes will lose 5-6 hp with the spacer if not tuned.

They won't "lose" that, it just won't make as much difference. He never did mention that in our half hour conversation yesterday tho. He said it made a good noticeable difference on his vette....and I'm assuming he has a vararam intake on it. Why wouldn't he? He works there... Lol

I'm ordering one regardless. My tune is getting revamped anyway, so I'm ok with it.

IndeedSS1 · 06-12-2012, 09:11 AM

Steve said this - When installed on a VR equipped Car the spacer will space the MAF closer to the throttle body richening up the Air Fuel by 4-5% . This does cost you some of the total power gain by about 5hp&5-6 ftlbs of Torque. This can obviously be tuned out for max power gains . When used with other cone and pipe style intakes this does not occur so the full power gain is realized without any need to correct the air fuel. Just bolt it on and GO

It's not that you loose power but that you won't gain as much

I call that a loss and will retune if need be.

06-11-2012, 07:06 PM	#164
Firerader Drives: 2017 50th Anniversary/Hennessey Join Date: May 2012 Location: Roanoke, Tx Posts: 130	If the spacer corrects an 8 degree angle on the blade wouldn't that translate to the corrected angle placed on the throttle body itself? __________________ 2013 2SS/RS 1LE.

06-12-2012, 09:11 AM	#168
IndeedSS1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Eastern MO Posts: 3,786	Steve said this - When installed on a VR equipped Car the spacer will space the MAF closer to the throttle body richening up the Air Fuel by 4-5% . This does cost you some of the total power gain by about 5hp&5-6 ftlbs of Torque. This can obviously be tuned out for max power gains . When used with other cone and pipe style intakes this does not occur so the full power gain is realized without any need to correct the air fuel. Just bolt it on and GO It's not that you loose power but that you won't gain as much I call that a loss and will retune if need be. __________________ She is only memory now.

06-11-2012, 03:46 PM	#158
sales@vararam.com Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 562	Hey everyone, we are really excited about this product. We know that you may have questions and some of you are just excited to get your hands on it however, we would really like to do this right rather than piece meal answers here and there, so we ask that you please just wait for the webpage and the official rollout. The webpage will answer most of your questions and end any confusion about how or what etc.. We spent over a year on this product, testing On Corvettes, Camaro 's ,GTO's G-8's etc.. Each design was evaluated and run for thousands of miles, bottom line is YES, IT works, it works so well in fact that you guys are going to be stunned by something that appears so simple. It was not simple to design. Get it wrong and you will have a mess. YES we are guaranteeing a power gain or we will take the part back and pay shipping both ways. (Spacers in general) We know that the word "spacer" can be a dirty word in the aftermarket. There are a few companies that make them and they tend to find one design that works and then replicate it on every application. A Carb spacer will and does work, but what design and on what applications? Most results will vary and duplicating it on an EFI application it may not work or it may even hurt power. Every application is different and as such, every design must also change to suite the application. They tend to just re-use the same design over and over again, in applications where it does not belong. With design of this type of product many have focused on the obvious, the blade itself however, there is a lot more going on inside the aerodynamic package than just tilting the blade to a less restrictive angle of attack. That is only part one. This will all be explained and shown on the webpage when it goes live.

06-11-2012, 05:21 PM	#160
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Just real time independant dyno tests is what holds water. We all know the Vararam intakes work great and produce power, but we have tested several other brands that look similar (but not this one) and could not duplicate any claims. Would be good to see it actually produce....would be a good seller.