Hyundai Tau 5.0 versus other V8's

[assasinator]

now we get inundated with hyundai fanbois. telling everyone how its faster than a 392.

[08-G35s/6MT]

Originally Posted by assasinator

now we get inundated with hyundai fanbois. telling everyone how its faster than a 392.

Lol I don't see any posts claiming this.

[bmorecam]

camarobelarous,
those numbers for v6 were pulled with mustang's performance pack with 3.73 gears and a few suspension parts, but away from that..

I think the genesis 2.0T is very capable and well priced(low $20k). I love cars that come from the factory with a turbo already installed. Easy upgrade for BIGGER power. I was soooo close and almost took the bite, for the 3.8 tho..
Hyundai is not the same H that one known 10 years ago.

but F* the hyundai lol. I dont know why but I am kinda looking forward to the new toyota based scion FT 86coupe(yhea..its going to be badged by scion in US).

look like its going to be a fun little 2k LB rwd car with lots of capability

Highlights:
2.0L naturally aspirated flat 4-cylinder Boxer engine
D-4S direct injection w/ port injection technology
6 speed manual and 6 speed automatic transmission (with paddle shifters) options
Limited slip differential

Street legal go kart maybe

[ibeck]

Originally Posted by sasquash1984

For $50,000 you could get a zr1 and smoke them all

Uh, you mean ZL1 I'm hoping. Which is true, a ZL1 would destroy all of them but thats a 2 door supercharged sports car while this is mean to run with Mercedes-Benz and Infiniti. A ZR1 is 100 K +, but in my opinion one of the most amazing cars made.

[Wesman]

Originally Posted by oldlugs

Very nice, but not for me. When Hyundai is owned by Americans, and built on American soil by American citizens, I'll consider a car with that name. This country is not in the shape it needs to be in, before I'd consider buying Korean. I don't care how fast/cool/exotic they become. My last two car purchases were American, and I suspect my next few will be too. Let the Koreans enjoy their Hyundais. It's shameful enough, that so many components on my American cars, were sourced overseas.

Exactly. You could build every single Hynundai here and make every part here as well...its still a Korean owned company building Korean engineered cars. Meaning all the economic benefits go back to Korea, not the US. Our country is far enough in the shitter, don't make it worse by buying Hyundai. Until all these ignorant people realize this, the economy is not going to ever improve.

Until then, I'll stick with buying cars built by American companies that I can take pride in, and I sleep quite well at night knowing I made that my choice.

[rykeith]

Originally Posted by sasquash1984

[Wesman]

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

I would say Hyundai's are over-engineered appliances, Toyota's are under-engineered appliances. The $19k Hyundai Elantra has rear seat heaters, the Sonata turbo has Direct Injection and gets the same gas mileage as an Accord 4-cylinder with 150% the power. Those are just two small examples of over-engineered Hyundai's. But I agree completely with the latter point, going from any of those brands to a Hyundai would be making a step backwards.


Then again check out the Equus, it has NO check engine light and has an Ipad for an owners manual.
http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...-3-finale.html

You are confusing engineering with tacked-on features. Hyundai uncercuts their competition by offering more features as standard or for less cost than other makers. That doesn't make them better engineered at all.

When you actually look at how the cars are built underneath, the design of the engine, suspension, brake system, wiring, PCM, ect, you realize they are thrown together pieces of shit that are essentially disposable cars.

The era of the disposable car has arrived thanks to Hyundai and Kia.

[08-G35s/6MT]

Hyundai is still way behind the competition in terms of reliability too, that's why they have such great warranties.... Irony ? Also I would say Korean Automakers Hyundai's and Kia's are the closest thing we have to a Chinese car(no pun intended) currently. They look good on paper, but they drive like appliances and skimp out on the small details.

[LimaCharlie]

Good automotive trivia.......notice the horsepower and torque curves always cross at 5252 RPM on those dyno charts. This is true for all gasoline internal combustion engines (4-stroke). Trivia over...
Looks like Hyundai did a nice job on their 5.0. I can't believe how quiet it is. It sounds like an electric car in the dyno and burnout video. Most people would appreciate the silence but I want to hear some tone (especially on a performance spec car).

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by LimaCharlie

Good automotive trivia.......notice the horsepower and torque curves always cross at 5252 RPM on those dyno charts. This is true for all gasoline internal combustion engines (4-stroke). Trivia over...
Looks like Hyundai did a nice job on their 5.0. I can't believe how quiet it is. It sounds like an electric car in the dyno and burnout video. Most people would appreciate the silence but I want to hear some tone (especially on a performance spec car).

You mean this is true for every engine as horsepower = tq*rpm/5252

[Stew]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

I think that 274hp number is a little suspect. Motor Trend was only able to get a 7.4 second 0-60 time out of it. My 170hp Alero is only about 1/2 second off that. Other reviews have gotten disappointing numbers as well. I'd love to see one of those put on a dyno to see what they actually put out.

People are actually pulling low/mid 14s in the 1/4 mile bone stock with them.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Wesman

You are confusing engineering with tacked-on features. Hyundai uncercuts their competition by offering more features as standard or for less cost than other makers. That doesn't make them better engineered at all.

When you actually look at how the cars are built underneath, the design of the engine, suspension, brake system, wiring, PCM, ect, you realize they are thrown together pieces of shit that are essentially disposable cars.

The era of the disposable car has arrived thanks to Hyundai and Kia.

You really have no idea. The current Hyundais are as well, or better ENGINEERED than any competing car PERIOD. If it just a matter of features for price, i wouldn't care, but I have driven the new Sonata and new Elantra and been able to compare them with their direct competitors and you know what? They match or excel past EVERYONE of them, not only in features, but in build quality, design, eninges, and they are about the only ones who know how to tune a transmission.

[08-G35s/6MT]

Originally Posted by Stew

You really have no idea. The current Hyundais are as well, or better ENGINEERED than any competing car PERIOD. If it just a matter of features for price, i wouldn't care, but I have driven the new Sonata and new Elantra and been able to compare them with their direct competitors and you know what? They match or excel past EVERYONE of them, not only in features, but in build quality, design, eninges, and they are about the only ones who know how to tune a transmission.

Then again I agree 100%, the Elantra has the nicest interior in it's class by far. Then there's the Focus in 2nd, then the Cruze in 3rd.

[Wesman]

Originally Posted by Stew

You really have no idea. The current Hyundais are as well, or better ENGINEERED than any competing car PERIOD. If it just a matter of features for price, i wouldn't care, but I have driven the new Sonata and new Elantra and been able to compare them with their direct competitors and you know what? They match or excel past EVERYONE of them, not only in features, but in build quality, design, eninges, and they are about the only ones who know how to tune a transmission.

You know NOTHING about engineering then. Driving the car doesn't mean shit, the "feel" of the car doesn't tell you whats underneath. You are completely clueless, maybe if you have some idea how to open the hood you would be able to realize there is a lot more to a car than how it "feels" when you drive it

You have to actually WORK ON the car to know how its built. And Hyundais and Kias are built like complete shit. They are extremely cheaply designed and engineered, and its apparent that everything under the car was designed to cut costs and then halved in price again just for good measure. The brake systems are garbage, the engines are garbage, the suspension is garbage, and the chassis is garbage. But they give you a "nice interior" with all the money they saved