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1JEWLDSSRS · 12-02-2021, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by larry_g

Gave a new meaning to beast mode when the bypass valve closes...

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Yes sir!!

1JEWLDSSRS · 12-02-2021, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cc-rider

That’s what I’m hoping for given my similar set up with a Kenne Bell 2.8. I know twin screw superchargers like as wide open of an intake as possible. Very different air dynamics from turbos when they are pulling air instead of pushing it though the throttle body.

2 of my other Camaro buds here are running the NW103's on their Whipple's, you should be good also with the Kenne Bell.. And yea these PD blowers like more air for sure, suck more in, put more out!! Good luck...

stevieturbo · 12-02-2021, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

I had a brand new NW 103 TB and sold it to a fellow member on here for his 2.9 Whipple setup. He was running a ported stock TB and after the NW install he picked up 40rwhp more than he had. He's happy..

When sucking through the TB, the additional flow of a large TB can be very worthwhile.

When blowing through the TB, stock works fine.

sscamaro · 12-03-2021, 06:01 PM

After putting on my LT headers,my tuner ported my TB. I don't know if the hp went up or not, but the pedal response was a lot better. After installing the S/C, I didn't change the TB.

larry_g · 12-04-2021, 07:42 AM

Ported affects throttle response by flowing more air at part throttle positions.

Bigger flows more air at WFO, if your engine needs it.

I replaced my ported stock size with the NW103 and picked up 40 whp on my Whipple setup, but the part throttle response has dulled slightly. Still worth it to me.

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1JEWLDSSRS · 12-04-2021, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by larry_g

Ported affects throttle response by flowing more air at part throttle positions.

Bigger flows more air at WFO, if your engine needs it.

I replaced my ported stock size with the NW103 and picked up 40 whp on my Whipple setup, but the part throttle response has dulled slightly. Still worth it to me.

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Can your tuner do a little "tweaking" on the throttle response to get rid of the dull spot? I remember when we tuned my car after the manifold swap and my tuner mentioning something about making the throttle response a little more responsive. Gotta say mine has a "hair trigger" response. lol. Gotta be careful with it.

larry_g · 12-04-2021, 08:48 AM

Well, to be fair, my version of "dull" is me being especially picky at very small throttle openings. Most mods are give and take so I'm not surprised at it, but will likely do some logging to see if there is any room for tweaking.

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1JEWLDSSRS · 12-04-2021, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by larry_g

Well, to be fair, my version of "dull" is me being especially picky at very small throttle openings. Most mods are give and take so I'm not surprised at it, but will likely do some logging to see if there is any room for tweaking.

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Gotcha.. Good luck sir..

cc-rider · 12-05-2021, 01:07 AM

Well…I went for the big boy and ordered the Nick Williams 112mm. I think the Kenne Bell is equipped to make the most of it. It uses a 4.5” (112mm) intake tube on it and the intake manifold is huge (plate shrinks it down to accept the 90mm stock LS3 throttle body).

Sure hope we can tune this thing. Time will tell.

larry_g · 12-05-2021, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cc-rider

Well…I went for the big boy and ordered the Nick Williams 112mm. I think the Kenne Bell is equipped to make the most of it. It uses a 4.5” (112mm) intake tube on it and the intake manifold is huge (plate shrinks it down to accept the 90mm stock LS3 throttle body).

Sure hope we can tune this thing. Time will tell.

Keep us updated...

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1JEWLDSSRS · 12-05-2021, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cc-rider

Well…I went for the big boy and ordered the Nick Williams 112mm. I think the Kenne Bell is equipped to make the most of it. It uses a 4.5” (112mm) intake tube on it and the intake manifold is huge (plate shrinks it down to accept the 90mm stock LS3 throttle body).

Sure hope we can tune this thing. Time will tell.

Very cool!! Good luck..

Bildo · 12-06-2021, 01:22 PM

I had the issue with the NW 102 standard on about 18lbs on my F1-A. Caused fluttering after a few thousand miles that would result in the engine shutting off at highway speeds. Not a cool thing. Sent it in and had it upgraded to the 102 Boosted. Haven't had an issue since.

12-03-2021, 06:01 PM	#18
sscamaro Drives: 2010 2SS, 2017 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver,PA Posts: 3,195 View My Garage	After putting on my LT headers,my tuner ported my TB. I don't know if the hp went up or not, but the pedal response was a lot better. After installing the S/C, I didn't change the TB. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Victory Red, MN6, 1-7/8 Kooks LT Headers, SLP Axle Back, Edelbrock E-Force S/C, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 72# Injectors, JRE fuel rail upgrade, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite Catch Can, Billet Hurst Shifter, DSS 1000HP axles, Spohn Trailing Arms, Toe Links, Lower Control Arms. Chrome American Racing Torq-Thrust wheels. 546/rwhp & 522/rwtq & 10.9# boost Tune by Jeremy Formato.

12-04-2021, 07:42 AM	#19
larry_g Drives: 2014 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 826	Ported affects throttle response by flowing more air at part throttle positions. Bigger flows more air at WFO, if your engine needs it. I replaced my ported stock size with the NW103 and picked up 40 whp on my Whipple setup, but the part throttle response has dulled slightly. Still worth it to me. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk __________________ 830 WHP 700 WTQ, Whipple 2.9 @ 13lbs Boost, Flex Fuel Tune by Blevins Tuning, LSA SBE, 3.5 GripTec, ATI LS3 Damper, AFR 260cc Mongoose, ARP Studs, Yella Terra Ultralites, Johnson 2110R, BTR PDS Stage 3, Melling 10355, Improved Racing Baffle, ID1050X, DSX Triple Fuel Pump, RotoFab CAI, NW 103mm TB, Stainless Works 1-7/8" LTH to 3" Speed Eng w/ X-pipe to NPP, Powermaster 9509 XS, Detroit Speed Motor Mounts, MGW, Monster LT1-S, ZL1 Calipers, DBA Rotors & Pads, Bilstein B6 Struts & Shocks, BMR 1.25" Drop Springs & Adj Rear Bar, Pegasus Solid Bushings, Z/28 Wheels, other misc parts.

12-04-2021, 08:48 AM	#21
larry_g Drives: 2014 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 826	Well, to be fair, my version of "dull" is me being especially picky at very small throttle openings. Most mods are give and take so I'm not surprised at it, but will likely do some logging to see if there is any room for tweaking. Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk __________________ 830 WHP 700 WTQ, Whipple 2.9 @ 13lbs Boost, Flex Fuel Tune by Blevins Tuning, LSA SBE, 3.5 GripTec, ATI LS3 Damper, AFR 260cc Mongoose, ARP Studs, Yella Terra Ultralites, Johnson 2110R, BTR PDS Stage 3, Melling 10355, Improved Racing Baffle, ID1050X, DSX Triple Fuel Pump, RotoFab CAI, NW 103mm TB, Stainless Works 1-7/8" LTH to 3" Speed Eng w/ X-pipe to NPP, Powermaster 9509 XS, Detroit Speed Motor Mounts, MGW, Monster LT1-S, ZL1 Calipers, DBA Rotors & Pads, Bilstein B6 Struts & Shocks, BMR 1.25" Drop Springs & Adj Rear Bar, Pegasus Solid Bushings, Z/28 Wheels, other misc parts.

12-06-2021, 01:22 PM	#26
Bildo Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,677	I had the issue with the NW 102 standard on about 18lbs on my F1-A. Caused fluttering after a few thousand miles that would result in the engine shutting off at highway speeds. Not a cool thing. Sent it in and had it upgraded to the 102 Boosted. Haven't had an issue since. __________________ 2012 2SS M6, ERL Superdeck 6 427, PRC 255 Heads, Procharger F1A w/ 3.85 pulley, 1300hp intercooler, Squash Dual 450lph, E85, ID1700, RXT Clutch, DSS 1pc driveshaft, GForce axles, Eaton Detroit Trutrac, a bunch of other crap I don't feel like typing.

12-05-2021, 01:07 AM	#23
cc-rider Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,172	Well…I went for the big boy and ordered the Nick Williams 112mm. I think the Kenne Bell is equipped to make the most of it. It uses a 4.5” (112mm) intake tube on it and the intake manifold is huge (plate shrinks it down to accept the 90mm stock LS3 throttle body). Sure hope we can tune this thing. Time will tell.