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Carlos Garza · 01-31-2010, 10:21 PM

I'm thinking about installing a Maggie in my camaro, I would love to run around 8 psi on it. For now, I'm going to run stock internals, cam and heads. What I'm not sure about, is if I should go with an aftermarket fuel pump, or just keep the stock. So all of you guys running Maggies on their cars, are you guys using the stock fuel pump, if not, witch fuel pump do you guys recommend.

thanks!!!

Bear · 01-31-2010, 10:59 PM

96% sure that MOST (Not All) of the guys running the TVS2300 are running the stock FP, but they are adding the Maggie larger FIs and a tune. Those 2 things should be good to 500-550 rwhp. Kenny Bell has Boost a pump to aid in fueling if need be.

RPM Motors · 02-01-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlos Garza

I'm thinking about installing a Maggie in my camaro, I would love to run around 8 psi on it. For now, I'm going to run stock internals, cam and heads. What I'm not sure about, is if I should go with an aftermarket fuel pump, or just keep the stock. So all of you guys running Maggies on their cars, are you guys using the stock fuel pump, if not, witch fuel pump do you guys recommend.

thanks!!!

Most everyone with a TVS runs thje stock pump and no BAP. However, the fuel pressure does drop to 50-52 PSI above peak torque.

If you are planning big boost or a larger engine with boost, look towards a twin pump conversion or at the very least a BAP.

JM10 · 02-01-2010, 01:57 PM

Anything close or above 600rwhp should have a twin pump or KB BAP?

JM

mjorgensen · 02-01-2010, 02:19 PM

What have been the limits of the stock pistons and rods with boost? Has anyone had a ring land failure at more than 6 psi?

Carlos Garza · 02-01-2010, 03:13 PM

Thanks for the info guys. I know a guy that was running around 11 psi on an LS3 with stock internals and his engine is now history. I guess the safest way to do this is to go with 2 fuel pumps.

Speed74SS · 02-01-2010, 05:58 PM

I know LPE adds a KB Boost-a-Pump to all their packages over their base package, just to be on the safe side.

Crowley · 02-01-2010, 06:05 PM

KB BAP here as well

sweaver · 02-01-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlos Garza

I'm thinking about installing a Maggie in my camaro, I would love to run around 8 psi on it. For now, I'm going to run stock internals, cam and heads. What I'm not sure about, is if I should go with an aftermarket fuel pump, or just keep the stock. So all of you guys running Maggies on their cars, are you guys using the stock fuel pump, if not, witch fuel pump do you guys recommend.

thanks!!!

KB BAP, And now adding new a fuel pump assembly, 8 psi is easy to get on the stock fuel pump until you do heads and cam, Then the boost will drop,
In order to run 8 psi with heads and cam you really should invest in a new fuel pump assembly,

ADM PERFORMANCE · 02-01-2010, 08:53 PM

We run a KenneBell Boost-A Pump on al of our S/C Cars.

As stated above,anything north of 600rwhp we recommend a little more aggressive fuel system.

Andy

Carlos Garza · 02-01-2010, 10:19 PM

What about cars at sea level... I forgot to mention my friend was driving the car at sea level when the engine his engine died...

Could driving the car at sea level have anything to do with it?

and what's better the KB BAP or a second fuel pump...?

RPM Motors · 02-02-2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlos Garza

What about cars at sea level... I forgot to mention my friend was driving the car at sea level when the engine his engine died...

Could driving the car at sea level have anything to do with it?

and what's better the KB BAP or a second fuel pump...?

Sea level has no bearing -

All BAP's work the same in principal - they raise voltage and since the fuel pump motor is DC the rise in RPM is directly related to the rise in voltage. BAP's are a great value in comparison to adding an additional pump - however, there is a point where they alone can not support the fueling requirements and then a second pump is mandatory. Typically, if you seeing more than 80% duty cycle on 60 lb injectors then the BAP is probably taxed.

Last, adding an additional pump is actually more like "adding a fuel system" and it is not an inexpensive undertaking. I like dual in-tank setups with an external, boost referenced regulator.

jrpxxii · 02-02-2010, 10:29 AM

You will be better off in the long run to by a dual fuel pump. You are also able to do any modifications down the road with no worries. I just bought the Fastlane dual fuel pump as my car is very high hp and boost and I am also doing a 418ci forged bottom end as well. I started out with a KB boost a pump but as most will do, I still wanted more and now to be safe I added the new fuel pump.

JBAGREG · 02-03-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jrpxxii

You will be better off in the long run to by a dual fuel pump. You are also able to do any modifications down the road with no worries.

Agreed! We installed the Fastlane "Deuce" Fuel pump module with our Vortech V3 on the JBA Super Sport and have headroom up to 800 hp. When it comes to fuel, don't mess around. It's cheap insurance relatively speaking.

01-31-2010, 10:21 PM	#1
Carlos Garza Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 236	Maggie and the fuel pump I'm thinking about installing a Maggie in my camaro, I would love to run around 8 psi on it. For now, I'm going to run stock internals, cam and heads. What I'm not sure about, is if I should go with an aftermarket fuel pump, or just keep the stock. So all of you guys running Maggies on their cars, are you guys using the stock fuel pump, if not, witch fuel pump do you guys recommend. thanks!!!

01-31-2010, 10:59 PM	#2
Bear Drives: 2015 Green Flash 2SS M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 352	96% sure that MOST (Not All) of the guys running the TVS2300 are running the stock FP, but they are adding the Maggie larger FIs and a tune. Those 2 things should be good to 500-550 rwhp. Kenny Bell has Boost a pump to aid in fueling if need be. __________________ Back in the Game.

02-01-2010, 01:57 PM	#4
JM10 Se habla español Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS VR Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Arizona/Sonora Posts: 605	Anything close or above 600rwhp should have a twin pump or KB BAP? JM __________________ 2010 VR 2SS/RS BMR Suspension Parts Hendrix HD Axles DSS Aluminum Shaft RPM Diff / 3.91 Gears LPE ZR1 Clutch Edelbrock E-Force SC / JRE Fuel Upgrade Livernois 1C cam 570 rwhp/559 rwtq SAE Best 1/4 time: 11.43

02-01-2010, 02:19 PM	#5
mjorgensen HYPRVPR Drives: 2008 Viper coupe Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nebraska Posts: 29	What have been the limits of the stock pistons and rods with boost? Has anyone had a ring land failure at more than 6 psi? __________________ *M. Jorgensen* *WMD*

02-01-2010, 05:58 PM	#7
Speed74SS Drives: 2010 LPE 650+ CTS-V Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,640	I know LPE adds a KB Boost-a-Pump to all their packages over their base package, just to be on the safe side. __________________ '10 CTS-V : LPE 650+ Package 587hp / 582tq 2.55 Upper / 8.6 Lower / ID850's / Kooks Longtubes / New Era CAI

02-01-2010, 03:13 PM	#6
Carlos Garza Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 236	Thanks for the info guys. I know a guy that was running around 11 psi on an LS3 with stock internals and his engine is now history. I guess the safest way to do this is to go with 2 fuel pumps.

02-01-2010, 06:05 PM	#8
Crowley Okie doke Drives: 2012 GT500 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: McKinney Texas Posts: 3,568 View My Garage	KB BAP here as well __________________

02-01-2010, 08:53 PM	#10
ADM PERFORMANCE Drives: Anything I want Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DfW - Texas Posts: 5,405	We run a KenneBell Boost-A Pump on al of our S/C Cars. As stated above,anything north of 600rwhp we recommend a little more aggressive fuel system. Andy

02-01-2010, 10:19 PM	#11
Carlos Garza Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 236	What about cars at sea level... I forgot to mention my friend was driving the car at sea level when the engine his engine died... Could driving the car at sea level have anything to do with it? and what's better the KB BAP or a second fuel pump...?

02-02-2010, 10:29 AM	#13
jrpxxii Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS 427ci Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bowling Green, Ky Posts: 3,355	You will be better off in the long run to by a dual fuel pump. You are also able to do any modifications down the road with no worries. I just bought the Fastlane dual fuel pump as my car is very high hp and boost and I am also doing a 418ci forged bottom end as well. I started out with a KB boost a pump but as most will do, I still wanted more and now to be safe I added the new fuel pump.