07-27-2021, 01:36 PM | #1 |
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Camaro and catch cans
Might want to review this before you install a catch can. They won't do any harm but Master Mechanic Paul Koerner says we already have one.
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07-27-2021, 01:38 PM | #2 |
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yup thats why i never added one till recently but i just added the elite x2 one since i got it for free from my buddy and have been tracking my car more recently
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07-27-2021, 02:24 PM | #3 | |
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"The bottom line is that if you have a dry-sump lubrication system, you already have a catch can" The LT1 is a wet sump system...
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07-27-2021, 02:34 PM | #4 |
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Watch it again. Pay particular attention to time starting about 2:50... It is build in and drains back down to the oil pan. That is talking about the wet sump system.
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07-27-2021, 02:59 PM | #5 |
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Yes, the LT1 has a clean side catch can, but the aftermarket ones are for the dirty side... Mine catches a fair amount of oil, that now isn't getting to my intake and valves...
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07-27-2021, 03:50 PM | #6 |
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I was impressed with how much my catch can caught that did not make it back into the intake. Whether you believe in them or not is up to you obviously, I will keep the one I installed on though. Just knowing that it is pulling that excess waste out before it makes it back to the engine is good for me and gives me peace of mind.
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07-27-2021, 04:00 PM | #7 |
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07-27-2021, 04:15 PM | #8 | |
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I don't know....the guy is a Master Mechanic and says we don't need one. He knows a lot more than me so while I have considered one in the past and indeed had one on my C5 Corvette that did catch a lot of oil which he says might do some good if you do hard acceleration, which I did do from time to time, but not on our LT1's. |
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07-27-2021, 05:44 PM | #9 |
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Do we “need” one? No. Most owners are not going to keep their vehicles to the point that the coking which occurs on the intake valves with direct injection becomes a drivability problem. Plus, when you factor in the risk of a warranty denial for a modification that offers more long term than short term benefit, it’s obvious we do not need one. That said, I run the Elite and the amount of oil and impurities I drain out every 3,000 miles is significant. That’s stuff that does not go back into my engine, not all of which would be subsequently burned. Since my warranty is toast due to other mods, I track my car, I plan on keeping it until I am boots up and I am anal about shit in my engine, I have a CC...even though I do not need one.
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07-27-2021, 06:05 PM | #11 |
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The LT1 has been out since 2014. Consider these posts
https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showp...01&postcount=6 https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showp...42&postcount=7
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07-27-2021, 06:45 PM | #12 | |
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Remember, GM only cares about your engine until they are no longer liable for it (60,000 miles), no one is going to have a significant coking issue in that time... I figure every ounce I pour out of my catch can is one less ounce sprayed into my intake and over my hot valves, even if it is only catching 50% of the blow by that doubles the time/mileage before I would possibly experience any coking issue... Do we NEED one? Nope... Does it help to some degree, yep...
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07-27-2021, 06:50 PM | #13 |
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I'm with the people that plan on keeping their car for a long time so i have a catch can just for my peace of mind...but read what ya want and believe what ya want to. alot of people have cans and i don't think anybody is like mine never catches anything
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07-27-2021, 07:31 PM | #14 | |
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Read this 2017 post that describes how this happened to me in 200 miles. https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=37 In cold climates, water vapor separates quickly causing the catch can to fill with water. The oil loaded up so badly that my eyes burned when I drained it in a closed three car garage. I will never run a catch can again. More potential for harm than good IMO. The LT1 has been in production seven years. I don't see evidence of a coking problem
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