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Snipe0311 · 11-12-2019, 07:12 PM

Hey guys, I have a 2014 camaro ss (ls3) with the following modifications American racing headers, high flow cats,Cai, and a tuned by janetty. Anyways I had a valve spring failure and a bent push rod
It also bent a valve but it didn't drop or hit the piston. So I have a few question, since i have to pull of the heads to replace that exhaust valve I wanted to upgrade the valve train with new springs and rocker arms and push rods. I really couldn’t find a complete set with everything I needed. I’m just confused and the push rods sizes and spring sizes and the rocker arms. Does everything come in one set maybe? Does the rocker arms need to have to correct spring and correct push rod size ??

marklsx · 11-12-2019, 08:31 PM

Well, if you are going to replace springs and pushrods you might think about swapping the cam. You can usually get all of the parts you need in a bundle with the new cam. I would also replace the lifters and trays while the heads are off. And timing chain and chain tensioner. Maybe the oil pump. Slippery slope, but I think you will like the outcome.

dino2012ls3 · 11-12-2019, 08:36 PM

+1, not so sure on the oil pump

Snipe0311 · 11-13-2019, 01:36 AM

Yeah I was looking into the cam. Never done one before but I’m a fast learner and decent with a wrench. I just need to have my baby on the road it’s been awhile since I’ve drove her.

2010reddevil · 11-13-2019, 04:40 AM

If you had a spring failure, the valve had to have hit the piston. No spring to hold valve equals a very quick meeting with Mr Piston, usually more than once lol. I'd definitely get that guide checked.

Katech_Zach · 11-13-2019, 07:49 AM

Snipe, I would love to assist you with a valvetrain package. I will shoot you a PM

christianchevell · 11-16-2019, 07:15 AM

SNipe….. I would think about since your into boltons….. Maybe going with better heads like say the GPI package which would give you 1.8 ratio rockers and they could spec you out some springs to fit the stock cam and avoid having to replace it for now anyway and get more lift from the stock cam..its a thought as they are one of the best shops and actually went to all the trouble to develop the decently priced small bore ls7 heads package..and if you feel the need the cam would come as part....yet just running a wrench so easy and I use br30 driven racing fluid for break in on cam etc etc and had a pro do it not me in the driveway with some dowels and rented tools praying to make it to a dyno 60 miles away..... Just a couple thoughts, GPI is on here in some decent posts.... its not cheap for really good performance, Good LUCK..... And the first idea is not always the best theres more than one way to skin a Tire....
https://gwatneyperformance.com/produ...d-cam-package/

InFiD3ViL · 11-16-2019, 11:54 PM

Damn, those springs don't look that old. They still have most of their paint on them. How many miles?

Snipe0311 · 08-17-2022, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

Damn, those springs don't look that old. They still have most of their paint on them. How many miles?

Sorry for the few years late response lol but it only has 40k miles!! The is STILL sitting in the garage! But in September I’m going to Jannetty Racing for a cam install and some other things. It took me a while to save two new baby boys and a new home so saving $ at a snail pace.

CamaroCracka · 08-17-2022, 09:17 AM

God Bless ya for hanging in there.

oldman14ss · 08-18-2022, 06:41 AM

like cracka says good job ! absence makes the heart grow fonder. you'll get there just think of all the high priced gas you didnt burn. i feel for you. mine just came down of the jack stands after sitting for 7.5 months

oldman14ss · 08-18-2022, 06:43 AM

just think now ya have some young sprouts to teach to be gearheads

Livernois Motorsports · 08-31-2022, 12:42 PM

Livernois Motorsports we have complete heads cams springs in stock and can help you 313-561-5500

InFiD3ViL · 08-31-2022, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Snipe0311

Sorry for the few years late response lol but it only has 40k miles!! The is STILL sitting in the garage! But in September I’m going to Jannetty Racing for a cam install and some other things. It took me a while to save two new baby boys and a new home so saving $ at a snail pace.

Wow, you are a patient man! Glad to see you hung in there though. Oh I understand the slow savings. I have a 9 month boy old at home now so it's slow going with any future mods for me for a bit.

But the wait will be worth it with that new cam. You are going to love it!

11-12-2019, 07:12 PM	#1
Snipe0311 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Waterbury, CT Posts: 3	Valve train help!!!! Hey guys, I have a 2014 camaro ss (ls3) with the following modifications American racing headers, high flow cats,Cai, and a tuned by janetty. Anyways I had a valve spring failure and a bent push rod It also bent a valve but it didn't drop or hit the piston. So I have a few question, since i have to pull of the heads to replace that exhaust valve I wanted to upgrade the valve train with new springs and rocker arms and push rods. I really couldn’t find a complete set with everything I needed. I’m just confused and the push rods sizes and spring sizes and the rocker arms. Does everything come in one set maybe? Does the rocker arms need to have to correct spring and correct push rod size ?? Attached Images Last edited by Snipe0311; 11-12-2019 at 07:24 PM. Reason: Spelling

11-12-2019, 08:31 PM	#2
marklsx Drives: 2014 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: MA Posts: 103	Well, if you are going to replace springs and pushrods you might think about swapping the cam. You can usually get all of the parts you need in a bundle with the new cam. I would also replace the lifters and trays while the heads are off. And timing chain and chain tensioner. Maybe the oil pump. Slippery slope, but I think you will like the outcome. __________________ 2014 1SS - BTR Stg3, GMPP CNC Heads, Kooks LTs & cats, Magnaflow 2.5" Street w/Res X, Z28 CAI

11-13-2019, 04:40 AM	#5
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	If you had a spring failure, the valve had to have hit the piston. No spring to hold valve equals a very quick meeting with Mr Piston, usually more than once lol. I'd definitely get that guide checked. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

11-16-2019, 07:15 AM	#7
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,587 View My Garage	SNipe….. I would think about since your into boltons….. Maybe going with better heads like say the GPI package which would give you 1.8 ratio rockers and they could spec you out some springs to fit the stock cam and avoid having to replace it for now anyway and get more lift from the stock cam..its a thought as they are one of the best shops and actually went to all the trouble to develop the decently priced small bore ls7 heads package..and if you feel the need the cam would come as part....yet just running a wrench so easy and I use br30 driven racing fluid for break in on cam etc etc and had a pro do it not me in the driveway with some dowels and rented tools praying to make it to a dyno 60 miles away..... Just a couple thoughts, GPI is on here in some decent posts.... its not cheap for really good performance, Good LUCK..... And the first idea is not always the best theres more than one way to skin a Tire.... https://gwatneyperformance.com/produ...d-cam-package/ __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

11-16-2019, 11:54 PM	#8
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,570	Damn, those springs don't look that old. They still have most of their paint on them. How many miles? __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

11-12-2019, 08:36 PM	#3
dino2012ls3 Drives: 2012 ls3 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: humble Posts: 113	+1, not so sure on the oil pump

11-13-2019, 01:36 AM	#4
Snipe0311 Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Waterbury, CT Posts: 3	Yeah I was looking into the cam. Never done one before but I’m a fast learner and decent with a wrench. I just need to have my baby on the road it’s been awhile since I’ve drove her.

11-13-2019, 07:49 AM	#6
Katech_Zach Drives: 14 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Clinton Twp, MI Posts: 483	Snipe, I would love to assist you with a valvetrain package. I will shoot you a PM

08-17-2022, 09:17 AM	#10
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,734	God Bless ya for hanging in there. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

08-18-2022, 06:41 AM	#11
oldman14ss Drives: 2014 1ss camaro Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: missouri Posts: 705	like cracka says good job ! absence makes the heart grow fonder. you'll get there just think of all the high priced gas you didnt burn. i feel for you. mine just came down of the jack stands after sitting for 7.5 months

08-18-2022, 06:43 AM	#12
oldman14ss Drives: 2014 1ss camaro Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: missouri Posts: 705	just think now ya have some young sprouts to teach to be gearheads

08-31-2022, 12:42 PM	#13
Livernois Motorsports Drives: 2010 Camaro 454 LSX (SOLD) Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Dearborn Heights, MI Posts: 792	Livernois Motorsports we have complete heads cams springs in stock and can help you 313-561-5500